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zimroel 18-02-2012 01:48 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Hello,

I picked up a nice vietnamese lady on the street at geylang. We went to a short time hotel. The f... guy wanted my passport to register. I was thinking w my balls and showed him my immigration visa pass. he wrote my name and it seems my fin number along with the passport of the girl. Am I recorded by the autorithy now ?
What's your advice for the next time. Tell you don't have id ? Give a false name ?

Thank you

PS I tried to find some similar questions in the newbie thread.

justforfun90 21-02-2012 09:13 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
So just a quick confirmation.

Basically what I understand is that:
Being a customer of FL is not a crime, as long as the FL is above 18.
Getting caught by AV will not result in any form of charge if the above sentence is true.
AV will inform your parents/wife about the affair.

I have 2 simple questions. Is it really true that AV will inform your family? It's been spreading here and there but no verification of this information at all. I definitely do not want my family to know about it. Can any bros verify this once and for all?

Next question is that civil servants seem to be charged/punished for engaging in vice activities. Yet, none of the law states that it was a crime. Is it possible for someone to advise on this issue?
I assume civil servants are defined as whoever works in the government sector and thus includes, but not limited to, teachers, principals, regulars, police, etc.

Thanks for the help.

drekmanmuthu 16-05-2012 10:11 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sexy (Post 1125287)
Promoting a girl who is under 16 here... is also classified under that... you HAVE BEEN WARNED.. so even if you say i am ONLY HELPING OUT a friend..bababba..U are just as gulity..

vomit and cannot read too much

drekmangala 16-05-2012 10:22 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sexy (Post 1125265)
con't from above Under the Sg LAW Any person who — 1 and 2


(3) For the purposes of this section, it shall be presumed until the contrary is proved that —

(a) a person who takes or causes to be taken into a brothel any woman or girl has disposed of her with the intent or knowledge mentioned in subsection (1) (a);

(b) a person who receives any woman or girl into a brothel has obtained possession of her with the intent or knowledge mentioned in subsection (1) (a);

(c) a person has detained a woman or girl in any brothel or place against her will if, with intent to compel or induce her to remain therein, that person —

(i) withholds from that woman or girl any wearing apparel or any other property belonging to her or any wearing apparel commonly or last used by her;

(ii) where wearing apparel or any other property has been lent or hired out or supplied to that woman or girl, threatens her with legal proceedings if she takes away such wearing apparel or property; or

(iii) threatens that woman or girl with legal proceedings for the recovery of any debt or alleged debt or uses any other threat whatsoever.


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(4) Reasonable cause to believe that a girl was of or above the age of 16 years shall not be a defence to a charge of an offence under subsection (1) (i).

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(5) In the case of a man below the age of 21 years, the presence of reasonable cause to believe that the girl was above the age of 16 years shall be a valid defence on the first occasion on which he is charged with an offence under subsection (1) (i).

no eyes see. how to see and no one see

drekmangala 16-05-2012 10:23 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sexy (Post 1125279)
Persons living on or trading in prostitution

146. (1) Any person who knowingly lives wholly or in part on the earnings of the prostitution of another person shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years and shall also be liable to a fine not exceeding $10,000.

(2) Any male person who is convicted of a second or subsequent offence under this section shall, in addition to any term of imprisonment imposed in respect of such offence, be liable to caning.


(3) Where any person is proved to live with or be habitually in the company of any prostitute or is proved to have exercised control, direction or influence over the movements of any prostitute in such a manner as to show that the person is aiding, abetting or compelling her prostitution with any other person or generally, the person shall, in the absence of proof to the contrary, be deemed to be knowingly living on the earnings of prostitution.

no eyes see. how to see and no one see

serav1 21-06-2012 09:51 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Hi bros, just read on the news that some stables got raided, and that a phone was confiscated from premises. Will they be able to use phone records as evidence against clients even if they were not apprehended in person? With just the booking SMS? Really appreciate any senior brows advice.

DoNotDisturb 30-06-2012 01:49 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sexy (Post 1125266)
Traffic in women and girls

141. (1) Any person who buys, sells, procures, traffics in, or brings into or takes out of Singapore for the purpose of such traffic, and whether or not for the purpose of present or subsequent prostitution, any woman or girl, shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years and shall also be liable to a fine not exceeding $10,000.

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(2) No person shall be charged with an offence under this section if he satisfies the Director that the woman or girl brought into or taken out of Singapore by him or intended to be brought into or taken out of Singapore by him was so brought into or taken out of Singapore or is intended to be so brought into or taken out of Singapore for the purpose of her marriage or adoption and that such marriage or adoption can be solemnized or made and has been or will be solemnized or made under the laws and customs for the time being in force in Singapore.

singapore unlawful now..

Zennix 26-09-2013 01:35 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Hi Bros, if Im helping my China friend advertise for services, I am not receiving any fee from her. Is that alright?

Haha cheers everyone!

MatthewC 04-10-2013 05:42 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Overall a great thread and a wealth of information, thanks to TS for the information.

closetfan1 19-10-2013 07:59 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Hi!

I am new to SG and working here. I need your advice regarding various situations.

1. If I visit one of the brothels in GL and paid for sex, did I violate any law in SG?

2. If I pick up one of the WL in GL on the street then paid for sex, did I violate any law?

3. I see that I can even book an appointment to a girl online via this website, if I avail on one of those, am I liable of any offence?

Thanks...

Sheng8776 16-01-2014 09:46 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by closetfan1 (Post 9906658)
Hi!

I am new to SG and working here. I need your advice regarding various situations.

1. If I visit one of the brothels in GL and paid for sex, did I violate any law in SG?

2. If I pick up one of the WL in GL on the street then paid for sex, did I violate any law?

3. I see that I can even book an appointment to a girl online via this website, if I avail on one of those, am I liable of any offence?

Thanks...


1. If visit GL legalized brothels, no law violated.

2 & 3. If kanna catched shld be just record down IC, they mainly target OKTs or wl themselves.

This is from what I gathered.

Mavrick69 17-02-2014 01:17 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheng8776 (Post 10362036)
1. If visit GL legalized brothels, no law violated.

2 & 3. If kanna catched shld be just record down IC, they mainly target OKTs or wl themselves.

This is from what I gathered.

Oh ok thx bro for this :p

kaokao 26-04-2014 03:08 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Dear all sifus,

Read this thread pg to pg, still a bit confused.

Basically, if we r caught in hc or with a FL with our pants down, what is the safest thing to do/not to do/say to avoid being hauled to police station or having family called up? This, assuming the pros is above 18.

Tx in advance

newginq 10-05-2014 03:57 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaokao (Post 10909505)
Dear all sifus,

Read this thread pg to pg, still a bit confused.

Basically, if we r caught in hc or with a FL with our pants down, what is the safest thing to do/not to do/say to avoid being hauled to police station or having family called up? This, assuming the pros is above 18.

Tx in advance

Thats an important question.. any wise advice?

sean69 03-12-2015 05:50 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaokao (Post 10909505)
Dear all sifus,

Read this thread pg to pg, still a bit confused.

Basically, if we r caught in hc or with a FL with our pants down, what is the safest thing to do/not to do/say to avoid being hauled to police station or having family called up? This, assuming the pros is above 18.

Tx in advance

tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.. after that all u can do is pray :D

Kurosan 31-12-2016 04:23 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
learn alot from this thread thanks

Imfirecracker 09-01-2017 05:57 PM

Super complicated. Totally catch no ball.

007newnewnew 02-12-2017 10:42 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
edit post. Thanks

starbkk 02-12-2017 11:28 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 007newnewnew (Post 16742612)
Hi Senior Bros,

Want to ask that if the hotel reception want to take your IC detail before letting you go up with the FL.

What will happen if happen the FL kenna caught and the hotel pass your information to the police?

Anyone have similar situation before?

Thank you in advance.

You mommy will slap your back side and say you are a naughty boy !!!:D:D

Bistec 10-01-2018 11:12 PM

Sorry if this has been addressed. I've read several pages of this thread, but not every post.

How often does AV conduct raids {e.g. Once a month)?

Also, in your opinions, are apartments used by FLs and OKTs safer from raids than hotels (being a private residence)?

Can you all satisfy my curiosity?

rharlan 19-11-2018 03:07 PM

FL outcall in budget hotel
 
Thank you for this thread. Very helpful.

One thing which I never saw covered. What if I call an escort of legal age to a budget hotel? Is that technically illegal?

I have a couple of regulars who I meet often at budget hotels. I rent the room. But now I am a little concerned about the legality of it all.

yasuohate1 28-03-2019 10:32 PM

Have there been cases where OKT is caught by AV and they check through his phone list?

The underage case a few years back comes to mind.

yasuohate1 29-03-2019 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funboi (Post 18516006)
There are cases in the past where the extensive "listing" was taken.

Ohmai... And u know if those bros were then charged? Or mother wife informed?

Would be interesting to know how each bro deals with it. Is it a risk each is willing to take or simply go get an unregistered SIM (which in itself poses issues it caught with it)

rharlan 29-03-2019 11:50 AM

Re: FL outcall in budget hotel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rharlan (Post 18049298)
Thank you for this thread. Very helpful.

One thing which I never saw covered. What if I call an escort of legal age to a budget hotel? Is that technically illegal?

I have a couple of regulars who I meet often at budget hotels. I rent the room. But now I am a little concerned about the legality of it all.

Hi bros. Hoping someone can answer this.

Robgot123 19-05-2019 10:14 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
HI can anyone tell me when you're booking escorts online through a stable, do you recommended buying and using a prepaid SIM?

kulit7 18-07-2019 09:38 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
good info but can someone enlighten me, for cheong bro if get caught with a unlicensed prostitute / FL, will we get in trouble? both foreign and local bro

zooloootooo 13-08-2019 12:12 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kulit7 (Post 18967074)
good info but can someone enlighten me, for cheong bro if get caught with a unlicensed prostitute / FL, will we get in trouble? both foreign and local bro

For customers like us, think this is the GQ

Big Sexy 07-09-2019 07:39 AM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
German businessman gets jail for promoting overseas child sex tours to undercover Singapore police

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...tours-11880572

SINGAPORE: A German businessman was sentenced to five-and-a-half years' jail on Friday (Sep 6) for promoting commercial sex with minors in the Philippines.

Michael Frank Hartung, 48, had marketed sex tours to undercover police officers in Singapore and had been found guilty in July of two charges of distributing information to promote commercial sex with minors.

He is out on bail pending his appeal against conviction and sentence.

Hartung, a former senior executive at Deutsche Bank, had met with two sets of undercover police officers - first at a Starbucks cafe at Raffles City Shopping Centre in September 2015, then at XI&O pub in Mackenzie Road in April 2016.

He had given the four men - who went by aliases Michael, Jackson, Paul and Frank - information about commercial sex with minors in the Philippines, saying he had access to contacts there who would facilitate arrangements for virgin girls aged between 14 and 16.

He also gave the men advice on the typical challenges faced when taking young girls to city hotels for sex, and suggested solutions.

The prosecution had pushed for at least 70 months' jail, saying that he image Hartung portrayed was "not of a rank amateur but of a connoisseur".

"For budding paedophiles who knew little to nothing about the actual procurement of minors, the accused projected confidence, familiarity and experience," said Deputy Public Prosecutor Marshall Lim.

Defence lawyer Mohamed Niroze Idroos had argued that his client had been “incited” and “instigated” into providing information about commercial sex with minors under 18 in the Philippines.

The prosecution said the sentence imposed by the court would punish Hartung and also serve as "an important signal to the rest of the society ... that Singapore is not a launch pad for paedophiles intending to visit neighbouring countries for commercial sex with minors".

"We must stamp out attempts to violate the innocence of these young children and it begins with meting out appropriate punishments to those who even dare try," he said.

Redcobra 14-11-2019 08:49 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Hey everyone, not really new here but I can share my experience cos I was caught up in an AV raid so I hope I can share with you bros what to do if you ever get caught in this situation.

First time I try Cheong in this dome then suay first time kena already. Lucky I wasn't caught with my pants down doing the deed if not paiseh Sia.

Anyways back to the story I got to the location then okt ask me come up so I went up and proceeded to the room. Wait long2 for about a good 5-10 minutes outside then realized something was off. When I was going up the stairs got this brother also walking down with a camera in his hands. First red light for me but I shrugged it off thinking it was nothing.

Then the door opened then that's when I knew I was f***ed. The officer ask me come in then answer some questions. Got go through my phone and everything check my texts with OKT all. All I can say during this whole "interrogation" inside the room is like sort of informal. I just sit on the bed and tell them everything they ask, nothing more nothing less. Don't tell them things they don't ask you. Then last they Ask me to write a statement of witness as well with my details. The officer there was also nice in telling me what was prohibited and what isn't. Brothels that are not regulated are considered illegal but the people who visit them and the fls won't be charged unless they are underage. Very important point here.

Lastly they let me off and it's been a some time I haven't gotten anything from them so I assume I got off safely? Kind of suay lah first time want to Cheong this dome then kena.

chuannoshare 29-12-2019 11:03 PM

Re: All you need to know about Offences relating to prostitution under the SG LAW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Redcobra (Post 19437849)
Hey everyone, not really new here but I can share my experience cos I was caught up in an AV raid so I hope I can share with you bros what to do if you ever get caught in this situation.

Thanks for sharing with us bro. Apart from taking your phone and scanning it through, did the police took your IC and record down your details too?


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