I would totally understand why she doesn't deserve 500k with your detailed explanation. Btw, cannot drop info to the guy who picked up your call to ask for a "younger" or "better looking" lady ahh?
King @ formosa has photo album to choose girl in case u didn't knw.
I usually just go pick from album,give them my room no. then ask the counter to send girl to my rm after 15 mins. Photo album of girl & real person smtime can have 20% - 30% difference.
Pay 500k can just go Linda massage opp formosa to have 2 x fj. Special service price neg which can be lower. Indo rasa can be a gd choice w tat price. We talking nearby kings & milf here.
Btw,indo rasa & linda no album.
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What i learned on Batam massage places so far :
1. 200k/fj can be attainable at Formosa Kings too but it would be rare, requiring much effort and the right timing.
2. Surprisingly,200k/fj is MORE easily available than 100k/hj....lol. I actually took lesser effort to bargain for 200k FJ than i did for 100k HJ at most time...lol.
3. Out of 10 massage shops (on certain few major areas),200k/fj are easily available on at least 7 of it base on my experience. Of course if its SSYT it may be 50k more or if i meet a greedy yet super horny MILF,hehehe...(i dont submit easily)
4. 150k/fj (mostly milf) is also possible if one is a regular or knows the rope to break the ice with a masseur.
5. Strangely,sometime a HJ in Batam can end up costing more than a FJ which i see in some FRs send to me and in this thread...lol.
6. When one negotiate for a hj ,at most time full stripping,bbbj,fingering,nipple sucking,frenching is not inclusive. But top roaming w/o stripping often seems included. Almost every value-added service require negotiation. Again,there are tactics to by-pass all these.
7. In all Batam massage shop ,bargaining is a MUST for any special service to avoid getting RIPPED OFF. And i am talking about getting chop carrot. I learned that when one of my friend give it a "dont-bargain-try" (its much more expensive compare to Malaysia). So i deduce if i dont bargain in Batam at all,i am already a carrot-head to begin with,hehehe...
8. More than 80% of the masseur provide certain level of quality massage,even SYTs can massage pretty well too,hehehe...piano massage are rare in Batam,hehehe...
9. I personally feel tipping extra 20k to 30k on top of everything else after the END OF SESSION for an above average service makes them feel recognized for their effort and brings out a sincere smile from them.
10. Most massage places only have "basic conditioned room" even when they say it is VIP,unless one takes those spa kind of massage place or hotel massage. VIP room = got bath tub. All massage places i visited so far changes their massage/bathing towel,bed sheets and pillow cases after every session even if it may not look clean..10/10 of them i observed did.
I remember i said last year...i venture to booking joint 1st...then followed by massage places. But i havent complete bro Newyorker's trail on his signature and i still have long way to go as there are many other shops i havent tried. Last trip,i officially stepped in Alishan KTV,hehehe...not my 1st KTV in Batam,but its the 1st i shared in my summary. I am taking my time,baby step a time...i will reach my final destination,hehehe....
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11. Some massage shop girls (in fact it is most of them to me) can be book for overnight too but need to negotiate the price and wait for the massage girl to finish work which usually is after 1030pm indo time. Subject to chemistry.
I find tat u are really good at consolidating info. All yr above 11 listed r smthg i can use for referencing & plz allow me to add 1 more to it nt mentioned by u which i learned.
i learned that not all masseurs in MP will offer special service even wen i knw tat shop isn't a clean one. & not all supposingly clean MP r actually reli clean.
Let's see wen u can go find out more details abt saloon girls in future.
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King @ formosa has photo album to choose girl in case u didn't knw.
I usually just go pick from album,give them my room no. then ask the counter to send girl to my rm after 15 mins. Photo album of girl & real person smtime can have 20% - 30% difference.
Pay 500k can just go Linda massage opp formosa to have 2 x fj. Special service price neg which can be lower. Indo rasa can be a gd choice w tat price. We talking nearby kings & milf here.
Btw,indo rasa & linda no album.
Thanks for this info. Will be dropping by these places during my stay in batam in 2weeks time. I shall share my experience while I'm there 😀
To the Keyzha girls : "i 1st time come Batam,my friend tells me Batam HJ-100k,FJ-200...blah blah blah"..."Hallo Kitty and Princess massage next door also this price...blah blah blah..."...lol. In that area where Keyza is,i believe there are no less than 20 massage shops within 5 min walking radius,hehehe...and competition are stiff.
Look like keyza & hallo kitty is not bad massage,uncle will go try on next trip.
Every mp oso must need to bargain otherwise will sure get chop.
Thx u 4 shareing.
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Definitely money well-spent. But the word Free Fuck is over-rated. Free bonking always comes with a price higher than pay-per-bonk. I believe this rule applies everywhere in the world.
btm one fuck aldy so cheap,no understd y will got have ppl lookin 4 free fuck in btm.
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Then it should be tight pussy and love to cum...lol. So my choice are mainly MILF with tight pussy but MILF sometime pussy not as tight as younger girls. Good thing is MILF cum more easily.
Well, I was suppose to bring him but he impatient and made a trip himself and didn't enjoy as much as he likes to have drinking kakis. To summarize his 1st trip: Landed at Batam center, called a taxi and ask taxi to recommend budget hotel with food and entertainment close by and tat's why he landed in Hai Hai 2 hotel. He went for a haircut nearby and barber recommend him a BBW girl. Thus, he spent his time with girl, going to Windsor foodcourt for drinks/dinner. He paid Rp800 but he didn't overnight with her as he no longer can. Came back complaining of fat girl(he likes slim girl) and no fun alone.
Oh,i suppose thats his one trip w/o you which happens not too long before your last trip with him?
If he joined me that day when i saw you,i would ask OKT to recommend 2 slim sized MILF to keep him company at 1.2 mil rupiah. He doesnt need the "capability" ,but at least we can order drinks to go to his room to drink till both of you drop,hehehe...(i wont drop cos i only drink coke,hehehe..) Imagine,you one girl,i one girl plus his 2 girls and both of us,thats a total of 7 person. Enough to make a crowd...lol.
Thats what happen during my 2nd and 3rd group trip.Everyone drink until they make so much noise at the Formosa 2nd floor hallway and at 12am plus...lol. I wasnt there to witness the whole event becos i dont drink but my room was beside where they were drinking,so i practically hears everything...lol.
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Nope, both got the same discount; I've NTUC member card.
I see,i tht you paid S$49 and your sifu paid S$38.00.
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Lolz.....Yup....sifu loves those places(he actually ran 1 for 2 yrs).
I love those places too. It was a sad year when i was there. I was jobless and i cannot let my family knows i was out of job,so every morning i leave home pretending to go to work,but in fact i was hiding in those bars for almost 2 months on a near daily basis till i finally get a job.
Brings back some sad and happy memories.
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Alishan beer bill and sitting costs are cheaper than Meximo and Permata Indah.....and don't forget Alishan has 1+1...making it more than 50% cheaper. Girl sitting at Pertama Indah is Rp350k but I bargain with mami to Rp300.
Alishan KTV is actually 2 jar free 1 jar on their promo. Its only the 2nd night we have an extra jar which become 2 jar free 2 jars. From a non-drinker point of view,beers in KTVs are expensive...lol.
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Like u mentioned, KTV open later(well, except Pertama Indah tat open 1:00pm)......So if one wish to book a KTV girl for overnight,you will need to add up all the upcoming "hidden" cost together which will be another field worth studying on,hehehe.......thus, make sense to book from booking joints if quality and price is equivalent or cheaper.
Yea,Permata Indah is a booking joint cum KTV. So they opens early. But the prices of their beers and such now deters me from going there even if i wish to try. Well,unless someone wish to treat me drink coke there...which is also very expensive in my perspective.
Their prices reminds me of the Sillypore Zoological Garden's chicken rice and coca cola. Chicken Rice : S$17 (eating at non air-con area) and Coca Cola : S$5 a can...lol.
In booking joint,you likely see the ugliest to the prettiest. In KTV you are likely to see no ugly-looking girls but that doesnt mean they are all under the pretty category,hence the difference in pricing. From another angle of view,i see the best service to the worst service in booking joints,but KTV? I cannot rate or comment becos i only booked from a one KTV once.
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Bringing newbies is always fraught with different expectations....thus, ur setting the right expectations is important before they tag along.....which i believe u're doing
i was actually thinking of whether if i should bring up a certain issue for discussion here that i was expected to face during this coming trip since this is my 1st bigger than the usual number trip,but after reading this message of yours,i realize that since this is going to be MY trip,i shall just plan according to what i think is right for the group. Otherwise i can still go solo to save me all the trouble,hehehe...
Those who tag along should not stop me from following my original itinerary plan,they can choose not to tag along after my itinerary is out since all of them should have read my terms and conditions before they PM me. Will need to focus on just the objective of the trip.
My doubts cleared.
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And this trip would be even better
Thank you,bro...I know this coming trip will be most definitely be better the last one.
But i am not setting high goal. Will try to keep things neat and simple this time.
Oh,i suppose thats his one trip w/o you which happens not too long before your last trip with him?
Yup......think it is 1week before the trip with me .
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If he joined me that day when i saw you,i would ask OKT to recommend 2 slim sized MILF to keep him company at 1.2 mil rupiah. He doesnt need the "capability" ,but at least we can order drinks to go to his room to drink till both of you drop,hehehe...(i wont drop cos i only drink coke,hehehe..) Imagine,you one girl,i one girl plus his 2 girls and both of us,thats a total of 7 person. Enough to make a crowd...lol
He would definitely love that....2 women fawning over him.
Btw, the woman he booked is Rp800k......forgot to put in the k.
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I see,i tht you paid S$49 and your sifu paid S$38.00
Ticket price is $48...after discount is $31.
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I love those places too. It was a sad year when i was there. I was jobless and i cannot let my family knows....
Brings back some sad and happy memories.
Ouch......but u're back on ur feet...tat's wat is important.
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Originally Posted by nono1973
Alishan KTV is actually 2 jar free 1 jar on their promo. Its only the 2nd night we have an extra jar which become 2 jar free 2 jars. From a non-drinker point of view,beers in KTVs are expensive...lol
A slight correction on Permata Indah beer price...it should be Rp130k....thus, Alishan price about the same with the free jug......and I understand u as a non-drinker...lolz.....bec non-alcoholic drinks even more ex!
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....but KTV? I cannot rate or comment becos i only booked from a one KTV once.
Hmmm....Pertama Indah girl overnite price seems ok as they ranged from Rp500k to Rp1.1million.....but I can't confirm as I did not book any girls....except the BBW sitting girl...who told me about the pricing. Btw, no need to drink there too....can pick and go.
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.......this is going to be MY trip,i shall just plan according to what i think is right for the group. Otherwise i can still go solo to save me all the trouble,hehehe...
Personally, if someone is an organizer of a trip, I will evaluate and if I agree with itinerary, I will just follow accordingly or, don't join...or, have agreement with organizer to allow to break from group as and when have own mission.
Walk in to Delta around 1700hrs evening, take the three section, wait more than twenty minute, then going to the massage room.
They arrange a masseuse 21yrs, poor massage skill, like to talk very much, non stop talking until I ask her to stop.
After that keep on asking for candle ear more than ten times.
Keep on saying why don't Is good, I stop answering quite a while then only she stop asking.
After the steaming, go to take bath, wash myself, she stay away from the bathtub, I have to do all by myself
Then start massage, like piano, I ask harder, but still the strength still the same. After all completed, she ask why not wearing the own cloth come up, dengerous put all the belonging in locker, next time don't change the cloth and can come up straight away. I thinking that she will ask tips next time when I didn't change the cloth and bring all my thing up there.
Yup include HJ. I go on Sunday evening. Less people.
Paid all 800,000rph.
I have been there few time, they bathe for me:
If I not wrong one masseuse name Raith.
Will going to try Altalanta, any recommendations?
In batam is very difficult . perish the thought . Batam indo chinese girl, to a great extent..
In Sinkapore is easier. I tink tis forum got have indo chinese girl,wat for go until btm? Sm more twice cheaper.
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The 1st part of the FR,i learned that Kaha in Batam Center may have a different pricing as other Kaha in Batam. I will need to find out more in my next trip cos i lazy to call Kaha now....lol (waste money too).
Ok,i tink tis one i mayb can help.
Kaha all same price in airport,BC & harbor bay in 3 branch. mig27 got talking abt small bed in his fr. U got clarify wif him he take family rm or not? Bcs family rm is abt the price he mention paying for. Meaning his rm got the 2 beds kind. Queen bed & one super single. 65 sing dollar 4 one nite is abt for family rm charging price.
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I have been there few time, they bathe for me:
Wah! u look like ONLY willing to share bad experience with ppl here ah? U share indo rasa poor massage skill last time wor & hw poor it is u never share complete..nw u share delta spa poor piano massage also. Sm more is u go delta few time,meaning nt new bird. U like tat share thg who dare recommend u gd place to cheong? bad thg put up to share with ppl,good one keep yr ownself.
I tink u better not try atalanta spa bcs base on yr standard,btm maybe not suitable 4 u. Also if u don't read nobody can help u.
Woke up earlier n was down 8.30am for BF....only 3 tables with ppl....very quiet n empty.
Nothing much today....with half day....cant plan much. Went to $ changer....change $100 for 9800.
Was waiting for Bridge massage to open....looks like going to be late. In the end, call room service Kings massage again.
This time, a lady pick up the phone. English not very proficient. Cham....did ask her to send pretty and young one...she just say Yes yes...ok ok...
In the end, MILF still appear. It is different one though. This one the massage skills more crap then the other one I tried.
Didnt take up any special....she grumbled a bit...face black....everything ends about 40 mins ba....give her 20k as tips nonetheless.
Start to pack up....I ask the recep about taxi service to Batam centre....70k....politely decline.
Walk out....a group of drivers approached me....70k....I dun wan...keep walking...then one chap in the group call me...ok ok...50k.
He went to his car....I confirm is 50k before boarding....this one looks like take a big round way....so apperas a bit longer then usual.
But still reach....and he enter pass the gantry point n collect a ticket...I say cham liao..sure 10k more....
In the end....only 50k...again I step out then I pay him.
Board the 2pm batam time Sindo back to Sg. Saw a few Sg couples taking the same ferry....wow...the wives n Gf very fair n nice legs (wearing shorts)....haha..maybe see too much dark skin....
I saw the other side of the waiting area (the left side) fully functional....looks like it is for destinations other than Sg.
Going Sg....just sit at the main hall...However something no good is there is no big panel that shows the status of all the 6 gates.
A bit chaotic when both batamfast n Sindo open for boarding. Luckily the Sindo chap wears a bright yellow official polo...so you can see ppl re shuffle again.
Ferry was abt half full. So move out quite fast.
Bye Bye Batam! See you next time!! I'll definitely be back again.
Here marks the end of my summary. Thanks to all who read n commented. Kum sia!
Just finish massage from indo rasa. Never get to choose gal, go there tell them massage in room, they ask for hotel room n time. After all confirm ask me go back wait.
When she arrive, lucky is my kind of milf. Took the 2 hours massage and 200k for dunno wat special massage. During massage also nego for overnite wif her. Which she accepted at 50sgd.
Nice lobang....I will try this next time.
You lucky chap....send one nice MILF to your room.
So how much is the total charge if go room service?
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Was there for 3D2N from 27 sat to 29 Monday.
As it was my 1st trip there, so most of the time follow
bro nono posts..hehe
Booked Hans Inn from booking.com for $80 2 nights.
Wow...same duration of stay...Bro! Maybe we could have bump into each other...haha.
Nice FR!
Hans Inn look not too bad. Any comments on room condition n wifi?
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I would totally understand why she doesn't deserve 500k with your detailed explanation. Btw, cannot drop info to the guy who picked up your call to ask for a "younger" or "better looking" lady ahh?
Looking back should have...but first time trying just see what kind of quality they got.
The 2nd time, I did ask...but the lady recep who pick up the phone knows limited English.
Don't said like that, is a learning process in life experience.
Once bitten, twice shy. I will always remember this lesson.
Maybe I trusted Kaha too much.
I will still book from them next time...just that this time I will ask for the official pricelist. My friend in Beijing told me they have the price list.
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My room at fomosa wifi very strong, even in bed or sitting at the chair near window I can get full on bed n 2 to 3 at the window side.
Actually I prefer milf to those syt or those 20 plus ladies. My tis trip, the indo rasa overnite lady, sex was so much better than wif the king gal.
But in jb different story. Those young viet gals are so much better. I went massage at one shop only. Hook up 2 from there, but after few session I already get so much special from them. But one thing I hate, too sticky
Nice one. If you had seen the IndoRasa lady that massage me....most likely you no appetite. haha.
But the lao auntie skills really good.
I also wish to go JB n try their massage....the exchange rates are in our favor. Which massage shop you went to?
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Hahaha...you not newbie la,kena trick by my summary huh? I only recommend most newbies to stay Formosa Hotel cos the hotel is in the middle of most entertainment area with shopping and so i know how to help them move around via my newly invented remote-holding service...lol. (the remote-holding-hand service is just a joke...lol)
ok lah...Formosa looks quite central. I might consider staying there again...but will make sure the price is right.
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I have not encounter any ojek like that and its the 1st time i hear one too. Maybe you have those noob look? hehehe... not sure,but most ojek if its not from ferry terminal will usually quote me 15k and very often i give them 20k. I am thinking now,if i am in this situation,what should i do? How can i handle it beside just hand him the extra 10k.....hmm...next trip i try to go and find out.
Thank you for sharing this experience...
My reply will gradually continue on your other FR posts in this trip after i finish reading them. There are so much to learn from it.
Cheers!
Thanks for reading, Bro Nono.
Well...I think there are bound to be black sheeps.
Furthermore it is Ramadan. Weather was hot n I was tired. So, in the end give in. But there wont be a next time....Coz I rather walk from Formosa to DC Mall. No chance for the ojeks to earn my $.
The point is...you can cheat me one time...but I wont let ppl cheat me another time with the same tactic.
Kaha all same price in airport,BC & harbor bay in 3 branch. mig27 got talking abt small bed in his fr. U got clarify wif him he take family rm or not? Bcs family rm is abt the price he mention paying for. Meaning his rm got the 2 beds kind. Queen bed & one super single. 65 sing dollar 4 one nite is abt for family rm charging price.
Nope...the chap told me is deluxe room....I dont get the single bed (dunno king or queen size) coz no availaibilty....so the room I end up with is 2 single bed.
The lady recep at formosa also knows and she told me I can ask for a change to a deluxe room with a single big bed on Sun after 12pm.
No way is that the family room. Clear cut case I was conned.
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