Why does IMDA keep blocking my site?

[sammyboyfor]

There's nothing here that is controversial, illegal or inherently immoral. It's just ordinary folk talking and featuring their day to day sexual activities and interests while those who are providing sexual services post their offerings.

I can't think of a more down to earth site that meets the needs of the all Singaporeans regardless of race, language of religion.

If someone from IMDA could reply to this thread and point out which parts are considered to be unacceptable I'm sure we can work out something and meet in the middle or you can email me privately.

Cheers and happy new year to all.

[klkk555]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

There's nothing here that is controversial, illegal or inherently immoral. It's just ordinary folk talking and featuring their day to day sexual activities and interests while those who are providing sexual services post their offerings.

I can't think of a more down to earth site that meets the needs of the all Singaporeans regardless of race, language of religion.

If someone from IMDA could reply to this thread and point out which parts are considered to be unacceptable I'm sure we can work out something and meet in the middle or you can email me privately.

Cheers and happy new year to all.

I'm not from IMDA but boss pls don't get caught cos a lot of bros will be very sad.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by klkk555

I'm not from IMDA but boss pls don't get caught cos a lot of bros will be very sad.

Get caught for what? I'm running an honest platform where anyone in the world can talk about sex discreetly without being stigmatised or doxxed.

I'm actually hoping for National days honors eventually.

[klkk555]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Get caught for what? I'm running an honest platform where anyone in the world can talk about sex discreetly without being stigmatised or doxxed.

I'm actually hoping for National days honors eventually.

boss, we confer you all the honour, homat!

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by klkk555

boss, we confer you all the honour, homat!

Not here to fish for compliments just hoping that someone from IMDA will realise that they are causing harm rather than doing good.

[sbwow]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

There's nothing here that is controversial, illegal or inherently immoral. It's just ordinary folk talking and featuring their day to day sexual activities and interests while those who are providing sexual services post their offerings.

I can't think of a more down to earth site that meets the needs of the all Singaporeans regardless of race, language of religion.

If someone from IMDA could reply to this thread and point out which parts are considered to be unacceptable I'm sure we can work out something and meet in the middle or you can email me privately.

Cheers and happy new year to all.

It is already an offence to promote sexual services, even if it is outside of Singapore. HAHAHA.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by sbwow

It is already an offence to promote sexual services, even if it is outside of Singapore. HAHAHA.

I'm not promoting sexual services I'm providing a platform for the exchange of information. There's a big difference.

[sbwow]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

I'm not promoting sexual services I'm providing a platform for the exchange of information. There's a big difference.

We can say whatever we want.
From their perspective, it is not.
It is year end bro, people got to wayang to their boss to show some work done. HAHAHA.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by sbwow

We can say whatever we want.
From their perspective, it is not.
It is year end bro, people got to wayang to their boss to show some work done. HAHAHA.

Which is why I would like to open a dialogue in order to change their perspective so that we can all coexist in peace.

If Russia and Ukraine do succeed in calling a truce I'm sure we can do the same here.

[DunhillSmooth]

I have always assumed the prolonged existence was an unspoken 'agreement' and acknowledgement to coexist, seems I was mistaken. Thank you for holding the fort, Boss!

As to why they're blocking... you're open to dialogue but they're clearly not. POFMA being the most obvious insight into their general perspective on things, anything remotely dissenting in nature or a departure from their values/views they'll try to shut down.

Which is why I'm happy to see Bloomberg not backing down in the recent saga.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by DunhillSmooth

I have always assumed the prolonged existence was an unspoken 'agreement' and acknowledgement to coexist, seems I was mistaken. Thank you for holding the fort, Boss!

As to why they're blocking... you're open to dialogue but they're clearly not. POFMA being the most obvious insight into their general perspective on things, anything remotely dissenting in nature or a departure from their values/views they'll try to shut down.

Which is why I'm happy to see Bloomberg not backing down in the recent saga.

Interesting...

Business/Economy
Bloomberg Says No to Singapore Correction Demand
Government zeal for punishment threatens business climate
John Berthelsen
Dec 27, 2024
Bloomberg’s Singapore headquarters

The collision between Singaporean politics and the country’s ambition to be the financial center of Asia occurred earlier this week when the law ministry invoked its fake news law against Bloomberg, the world’s premier financial data and business news reporting service, for allegedly publishing false information regarding the transparency of multi-million dollar property transactions involving two of its ministers.

Almost unheard of for a major news organization, the New York-based Bloomberg refused to back down, saying on December 20, "Under Singapore’s Prevention of Online Falsehoods and Manipulation Act, Bloomberg is required under threat of sanction to publish this Correction Direction. Bloomberg respectfully disagrees with it, and reserves its right to appeal and challenge the Correction Direction. We stand by our reporting." The article can be found here.

That dares the government to block Bloomberg’s electronic transmissions into the island republic, or take other action. There is no indication yet what punishment, if any, the government might mete out to the company, but the threat is real and could send frissons through the business community. Singapore has never backed down from a fight with news organizations, suing some of the biggest for defamation or contempt of court without a single loss in its own courts. In 1988, it first cut the circulation of the Wall Street Journal’s Asian edition from 5,000 copies per day to 400, then refused its correspondent an extension of his visa. The office didn’t reopen for five years although AP-Dow Jones Telerate, its ill-fated Bloomberg-like business data transmission service, continued to operate. Undeterred, The Journal, arguably the US’s most respected daily newspaper, shifted its Asia headquarters from Hong Kong to Singapore in May.

Bloomberg's Singapore office, which opened in 1990, is huge, employing scores of people as part of a global network of over 159 locations and more than 21,000 employees. Moreover, hundreds of its terminals, the essential tool for professional traders and investors, are in virtually every financial office in Singapore, providing crucial real-time data and articles on almost every financial transaction that takes place anywhere on the globe. Without that information, Singapore’s financial industry, which competes with Hong Kong as Asia’s premier financial enter, would simply come to a stop.

Singapore ministers K. Shanmugam, the Law and Home Affairs minister, and Manpower Minister Tan See Leng, first said on Facebook that “We have taken legal advice and will be issuing letters of demand in relation to that article” for what they alleged were libelous statements on property transactions in Bloomberg’s December 12 article. titled “Singapore mansion deals are increasingly shrouded in secrecy,” and referred to luxury houses or so-called good-class bungalows, and mentioned transactions involving the two ministers. Asia Sentinel covered the story earlier without earning government action.

The references to the two appear to be factual, the Bloomberg article pointing out that “Last year, Singapore’s Minister for Manpower Tan See Leng bought a Good Class Bungalow (GCB) in another enclave called Brizay Park for nearly S$27.3 million,” and that “In September, an online media outlet reported that UBS Trustees had bought a bungalow from Singapore’s law minister, K Shanmugam, in the Queen Astrid Park area for S$88 million. The transaction was inked more than a year ago in August 2023.”

In a Facebook post on December 26, a Singapore opposition party, the Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) called on the Singapore government “to make public – immediately – the identity of the buyer of Minister Shanmugam’s former property, 6 Astrid Hill. If it fails, or refuses to do so, it must tell Singaporeans why.”

In a Facebook post on the same day, Lim Tean, the leader of another Singapore opposition party the People’s Voice, expressed support for the SDP’s call. Lim said, “Shanmugam is a political figure. How can it be that Singaporeans do not know the real identity of the purchaser of his house?”

There is no indication that a lawsuit has yet been filed. The business publication The Edge Singapore as well as The Independent Singapore and The Online Citizen, now based in Taiwan, each carried the Bloomberg piece. The former two have carried correction notices despite Bloomberg’s refusal to knuckle under. The Online Citizen editor Terry Xu refused, saying “The ministers have not disputed the accuracy of the facts reported in the article, including their property transactions. Instead, their claims rely on their own subjective interpretations, alleging that the article implies they exploited legal mechanisms for privacy in a non-transparent manner. These implications are not present in the article and were explicitly denied within it.”

Xu has become a target of sorts of government wrath. He went into exile in Taiwan after being pursued by the Infocomm Media Development Authority, which suspended his broadcasting class license over a dispute over reports on funding sources. Xu’s appeal was dismissed last December. “There was no way to continue working given we already lost the high court decisions,” he said. Thus the move to Taiwan. It was The Online Citizen’s September 12 article on Shanmugam’s previously secret GCB sale for a windfall of S$88 million (US$67.5 million), that generated Bloomberg’s story.

Under Singapore’s fake news law, noncompliance can earn fines and/or prison terms. More importantly, refusal to comply by posting a notice and correction at the top of the offending article can earn an “Access Block Order” from the Infocomm Media Development Authority to order internet service providers to disable access in Singapore.

The law, in existence for five years, had been used 152 times by September, according to the pro-government broadsheet The Straits Times, often against political opponents. About a third were against news organizations, with almost unanimous compliance. Asia Sentinel was until now the only victim, in June of 2023 when it refused the order, saying its story was accurate and there was no need for a correction although as ordered it carried the government’s correction demand at the top of the story.

Repeated requests for comment from the Bloomberg Asia-Pacific communications team in Sydney have been met with silence beyond an email saying “Thanks for your query below, but as you may have seen in other reporting, we are not making comment on this matter,” then a second calling attention to the government demand for a correction newly placed at the top of the story. There has been no indication by the Infocomm authority on what, if any, punishment might be meted out to Bloomberg if it continues to refuse to comply.

Shanmugam has rapidly become a lightning rod in Singapore who has been overshadowing the new prime minister Lawrence Wong, who took over from Lee Hsien Loong, a son of Singapore’s first Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, in May. Shanmugam is a pugnacious attack dog who often leads the charge in Parliament against the luckless opposition Workers Party and its leaders and who among other things led a campaign against Lee Hsien Yang, the estranged brother of former Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, who fled the country in 2022 alleging persecution, daring Shanmugam and Foreign Affairs Minister Vivian Balakrishnan to sue him in the UK, where he is now living with his wife Lee Suet Fern, concerning rentals of palatial state-owned bungalows on Singapore’s exclusive Ridout Road. The ministers were given unprecedented permission to serve Lee by Facebook messenger instead of in person. They were awarded S$200,000 each, which they said would be donated to charity, plus S$119,000 in costs against Hsien Yang.

Nonetheless, the affair won the two the sobriquet “the Rajahs of Ridout Road” and resulted in considerable embarrassment in a city-state so crowded that everybody except the massively rich lives in a high-rise flat and where even the relatively modest government-supplied Housing Development Board (HDB) flats, are getting too expensive for many Singaporeans.

[tiahborlang]

Your site is wonderful.

It is useful to all brothers to share info on which ladies are good and genuine.

For example, which escort agency is trustworthy..
Many bros here post feedback which is reliable.

Better than some classified ads which provide unworthy info.


For example, in Telegram channel which provide girls info. can it be verifed as trustworthy?

Here, this sammyboy forum, we can pumish agency by posting negative FRs.which in turn cause many brothers to boycott that agency

Here,, there are brothers who tested whether this is real Japanese actress doing FL and tell us the truth

I wished money making forums are as good as yours.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by tiahborlang

Your site is wonderful.

It is useful to all brothers to share info on which ladies are good and genuine.

For example, which escort agency is trustworthy..
Many bros here post feedback which is reliable.

Better than some classified ads which provide unworthy info.


For example, in Telegram channel which provide girls info. can it be verifed as trustworthy?

Here, this sammyboy forum, we can pumish agency by posting negative FRs.which in turn cause many brothers to boycott that agency

Here,, there are brothers who tested whether this is real Japanese actress doing FL and tell us the truth

I wished money making forums are as good as yours.

Exactly so the question remains.... why ban a site that actually makes the lives of Singaporeans better?

[StealthBomber]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

I'm not promoting sexual services I'm providing a platform for the exchange of information. There's a big difference.

Even if you are just hosting the offensive content authored by other people, the authorities here (and most other jurisdictions also) view you as equally culpable.

Like those online news sites that host controversial articles, they cannot rely on the argument that they are merely providing the hosting service; they are actually enabling the content to reach many other people.

In the recent mass rape court case of that old lady in france, the online forum "coco.fr" where like-minded men met and shared such fantasies, came under the spotlight - although in all fairness, the forum is just a site for hosting the conversations. As a host they are held responsible for moderating all the postings before publishing.