Orchard Towers

[Eys001]

First time at Orchard Towers and I had a very poor experience with one of the worst experiences at one of the massage places.

Saw a girl in a red dress, short, but with very large tits, Chinese (from Chengdu) and face is quite good but her body is fat. I found her just left of the escalator immediately when you go up from ground floor.

Went in with her and was asked to pay 50 at the start (should this have been a red flag?). After a half-hearted 5 min massage asked to turn over and she started selling her services. I asked her what she would do, she said everything include FJ. I then asked her how much, and she said 500SG extra for everything. I told her for that price I can pick up a hot model at Brix. She said how about 400, by that time I was no longer in the mood and I said, just give me the massage.

She then said since she liked me she would do FJ for 150 extra. I declined and said for 150, I can get an hour at Geylang. After she gave the hard sell for a good 5 mins, I said basically not interested - just go and do your massage. She then turned around exited the room and asked me to leave.

I said it's only be 10mins of service and she told me I can just lie there until the time runs out. So I told her she was an ugly hag and left. 50SGD as a lesson never to do OT massages.

I'm not sure if this blatant ripping off is normal for OT? But if this is the case, you Singaporeans have it rough compared to some of the other cities out there.

[bignehneh]

Bro, I think ur approach is wrong. I also posted before about OT. Usually, you approach them and say u want action. $50hj, $80bbj, $100fj. No massage and no entrance. If you approach like this, they know u know your stuff and will give you good service.

For those ML/ FL who rejected and insist on entrance fees, just walk away. Level 1 to 4, you have more than 20 FL to choose. Haha

Never walk in and take massage, then negotiate. Lol! $50 already collected. If u reject, they will carrot head u.

[TheIdesOfMarch]

Originally Posted by bignehneh

Bro, I think ur approach is wrong. I also posted before about OT. Usually, you approach them and say u want action. $50hj, $80bbj, $100fj. No massage and no entrance. If you approach like this, they know u know your stuff and will give you good service.

For those ML/ FL who rejected and insist on entrance fees, just walk away. Level 1 to 4, you have more than 20 FL to choose. Haha

Never walk in and take massage, then negotiate. Lol! $50 already collected. If u reject, they will carrot head u.

Can second this. If its blatantly obvious that you're there for fun and the massage is just the flimsiest of public facades to put up for show before the hanky panky happens in private then what's the point of going through it? Be direct in what you want, know the market pricing, know your negotiation stance, and always be prepared to walk away.

Remember that no deal is better than a bad deal that you feel you have to go through because you already paid $50 for what's effectively a bogus massage before the main hanky panky event. At the very least you can still hold your money in one hand and pcc with the other and you still have kept that money in your pocket instead of wasting it on "school fees" to learn from bad encounters that you have very little influence and input over.

Edit: More 2 point clone dogs zapping. Damn funny.

[Eys001]

So points well taken bros, so what I found interesting is this: 1) in OT, there is effectively no massage option - once they bring you inside and ask how many minutes you want - it's actually a scam. You need to negotiate on the spot what service you want - all-inclusive.

2) Never pay up front. I asked her why I need to pay up first: she told me she needs to give the money to her boss before we could continue - obviously just reject this and walk away. I felt it was a red flag, but gave her the benefit of the doubt...

3) Never ask the ML what the costs are: apparently I did and she automatically turned on her rip-off mode. I obviously knew her prices were not right but she had already decided to go down that path.

For some context, this is very different from some other countries that I have been - take Sydney for example - you actually get a proper massage that you pay for and then there is a well-understood convention of extra $50 for HJ, $80 for BJ that is decided halfway through the massage depending on how well the two connect. During a 45min session, the happy ending goes on for the last 15mins. So I was actually expecting some proper massage - it's not a facade.

I'm Chinese too (good hygeine/athletic) so I don't think it was the ML not wanting to service - just she must have sensed I had a different set of expectations.

[bignehneh]

There are shops that provides good massage followed by a HJ or prostate massage. Usually those who provides BJ/ BBBJ/ FJ belongs to another group. These group are those usually strip/ fuck type and they offer 0/ piano massage. It is a fucking waste of ur 1 hour if u want to do massage.

In SG, I always recommend ppl to do 1hr authentic massage with no hanky panky (get ur $50 worth) then another $80-100 on FJ. One thing to note is OT also may not offer you a good fuck job and collecting $ is always their tactics. Once you have paid, you cannot control the type of service you will get. OT is well known for shitty service (85% of the ML will try to carrot ppl).

For ur case, she earns $50 per 5 min. If she meets 10 newbie, she can make $500 and out of one pays her another $500 for FJ, it is $1000 per day. Usually I walk away if I sense any problem. Like I said, there are 20+ FL to choose. I can also share some good massage contact who provides a HJ after some solid massage (Not in OT). Again, sometimes this group of ladies also gets a little complacent and cocky (hence become lazy because why focus on solid massage if a 5min hj can earn $50). Nowadays, I try to do good massage (no special) then go for quick fuck.

Hehe! My theory is if you are fit enough and have a sizable and thick tool, you can pound the girl till she beg for mercy. In some position, she is unable to struggle and get out (part of your tool will still be inside no matter how she struggle). This is the kind of punishment I always give to the OT girls. Haha! Simply priceless to make my $$ worth

[jeanlow]

That sounds like a blatant scam... I find Chinese ML tend to more shrewd compared to to others. You got to negotiate what you want on the spot before you pay up.

[decepticon73]

Originally Posted by bignehneh

Bro, I think ur approach is wrong. I also posted before about OT. Usually, you approach them and say u want action. $50hj, $80bbj, $100fj. No massage and no entrance. If you approach like this, they know u know your stuff and will give you good service.

For those ML/ FL who rejected and insist on entrance fees, just walk away. Level 1 to 4, you have more than 20 FL to choose. Haha

Never walk in and take massage, then negotiate. Lol! $50 already collected. If u reject, they will carrot head u.

U r right bro, straight away ask fj $100 want or not if not just walk away... there is no massage there

[StomaBag]

Xiao wei #03-10A shop v gd business. Charge $200 for fj
Siao

[babe90]

golden pussy

[Cartman2005]

Originally Posted by decepticon73

U r right bro, straight away ask fj $100 want or not if not just walk away... there is no massage there

Is good to bargain first & this show you know the game...

[decepticon73]

Which pubs has russian girls? Or angmoh?

[sicklymicky]

Originally Posted by bignehneh

Bro, I think ur approach is wrong. I also posted before about OT. Usually, you approach them and say u want action. $50hj, $80bbj, $100fj. No massage and no entrance. If you approach like this, they know u know your stuff and will give you good service.

For those ML/ FL who rejected and insist on entrance fees, just walk away. Level 1 to 4, you have more than 20 FL to choose. Haha

Never walk in and take massage, then negotiate. Lol! $50 already collected. If u reject, they will carrot head u.

I second this approach. Try before. Before you enter, tell them what you want exactly and tell them no massage fees will be given. They will know. So sometimes I get FJ for $100 flat.

[bignehneh]

I always pay $100 for fj also. Sometimes no mood, $50 for hj plus squeeze neh neh

[Radiator]

Originally Posted by StomaBag

Xiao wei #03-10A shop v gd business. Charge $200 for fj
Siao

Is that the parklane Xiaowei? Or a different one?

[ABBB]

Anyone knows where QiQi went? She used to be in lv3, third shop from toilet,then moved to another unit in lv3 (red lights, facing the bridge directly). It's been a few years since I last saw in in OT. Her figure is legendary.