Thai Amulets...

[thaidisco_lover]

Originally Posted by sbj1994

I suggest to all parties cheated by this Necromancer to let the matter rest.
There is no need for any more answer as it is obvious he had scam everyone and if he offer to apologise then we should find it in our good heart to forgive me...better still if he can return the money conned but even if not we should let the matter rest as since he knows how to say sorry means that he knows he is in the wrong, we should give him a chance.
Take it as a lesson learnt and be careful when buying amulets online next time. Remember to beware of those whom i highlighted in my earlier post

Give him chance to cheat other bros in future? U really think he is sincere about being sorry for what he had done?

He even dare to say I am making trouble for him. Give me warning in the earlier post.

We not talking about a few hundred dollars here. So far , I have bros coming forward and relating their incidents.

Total damage = 10k and above...and not counting those bros who yet to come forward.

People is shake leg do nothing , Bro Necromancer is SHAKE HAND AND CON MONEY ... LOL

[sbj1994]

Originally Posted by thaidisco_lover

Give him chance to cheat other bros in future? U really think he is sincere about being sorry for what he had done?

He even dare to say I am making trouble for him. Give me warning in the earlier post.

We not talking about a few hundred dollars here. So far , I have bros coming forward and relating their incidents.

Total damage = 10k and above...and not counting those bros who yet to come forward.

People is shake leg do nothing , Bro Necromancer is SHAKE HAND AND CON MONEY ... LOL

What done is done no point crying over spill milk, just take it as an expensive lesson.
I think no matter what you do also cannot get your money back, if you and him comes to blows then you might even get in trouble with the law
Just let it be bro treat it as do a good deed...if he carry on cheating then karma will get him

[thaidisco_lover]

Originally Posted by sbj1994

What done is done no point crying over spill milk, just take it as an expensive lesson.
I think no matter what you do also cannot get your money back, if you and him comes to blows then you might even get in trouble with the law
Just let it be bro treat it as do a good deed...if he carry on cheating then karma will get him

Noone's crying. The reason I came forward is to show existing bros what kind of person is he.

Also to WARN future bros to make a better judgement should they consider renting amulets/barangs from him. If future bros insist on getting it from him , despite our news bulletin...LOL , I also got nothing to say.

I am not expecting him to come forward with any replies , apologies or even REFUND like some said.

He already spend the money on "xxxxx" and gambling already. How to make refund?

His worst Karma would be having ME as his client. LOL ....

Cos I know how to get this guy.

No worries ,I will never stoop to exchanging blows with people like him. I have other ways to deal with him.

I like your signature. Maybe I should create something like yours ...lol

[sbj1994]

Originally Posted by thaidisco_lover

Noone's crying. The reason I came forward is to show existing bros what kind of person is he.

Also to WARN future bros to make a better judgement should they consider renting amulets/barangs from him. If future bros insist on getting it from him , despite our news bulletin...LOL , I also got nothing to say.

I am not expecting him to come forward with any replies , apologies or even REFUND like some said.

He already spend the money on "xxxxx" and gambling already. How to make refund?

His worst Karma would be having ME as his client. LOL ....

Cos I know how to get this guy.

No worries ,I will never stoop to exchanging blows with people like him. I have other ways to deal with him.

I like your signature. Maybe I should create something like yours ...lol

Yes have to warn all to open their eyes big when dealing with such scammers.
One good example is the person 555 i warned about in my earlier post PETER LAI, this person act and talk like reputable and knowledgable but he is just another smooth operating conman. Donation scam, fake scam, even does put on offer to sell real prized competition amulets but passed the fakes to unsuspecting buyers. Operating a website with all his members supporting each other.

HAIZ let KARMA deal with such people

[thaidisco_lover]

Originally Posted by sbj1994

Yes have to warn all to open their eyes big when dealing with such scammers.
One good example is the person 555 i warned about in my earlier post PETER LAI, this person act and talk like reputable and knowledgable but he is just another smooth operating conman. Donation scam, fake scam, even does put on offer to sell real prized competition amulets but passed the fakes to unsuspecting buyers. Operating a website with all his members supporting each other.

HAIZ let KARMA deal with such people

Seriously I am curious why all this people willing to commit such sins?

If for me to commit a crime , I rather con people millions of dollars. Rather than a few ks or 20k. Both also con job.

If caught , also same go jail. And Karma will get to u.

Got hand, Got leg ,what for go around cheating people? Especially use religious amulets/barangs.

Want to con , do a better con job. End of day , u will still go hell. Might as well make it worthwhile.

That is my view anyway...LOL

[siamamulets555]

Originally Posted by sbj1994

Hi All, just to warn everyone to beware of getting cheated when getting amulets from these 'reputable' dealers you met online. Most of the time all you get are fakes or common amulets that are given out free by the temples in Thailand. To prevent getting cheated and get cheap amulets, the best way is to get the amulets direct from the temples in Thailand blessed by the monks themselves, or get from reputable dealers shops in Thailand.

DO NOT GET FROM THOSE SINGAPORE AMULETS WEBSITES LIKE SA or AmWorld. These websites are setup by very smart dealers to scam newbie buyers. They are in cahoots with one another to fleece unknown or ignorant amulets collectors.

Most amulets in Thailand would only cost a fraction of what dealers in Singapore are selling. Do not let your hard earned money be scam by such people. I have a non profit forum sales mart based in Malaysia you all browse and compare for yourself against these Singapore scam websites, you can PM me for the address.

For the record, i am a Thai Buddha Image Admiration Association Member. My forum has a good number of experience experts well known in the Thailand amulet circles. This is a very pretigious organisation only you can be invited to join only if you have enough experience as a judge, certifier or verifier of amulets. Those con dealers from the websites i mentioned were ex banned members from my forum last time and they do not have our qualifications and their competition certificates are mostly fakes. Just sharing the membership card of The Thai Buddha Image Admiration Association( Sammakom) of mine. The Sammakom have been around for decades but it haven't reach 1000 members yet. So to be in this circle says alot for my experience.

555 here again ! Can't stand anymore of this nonsense discussion, what's wrong with making $ over amulets? Happy buying & happy selling, i also need $ to support my 2 families & my flings when i'm in Thailand, GM2 , Poisedon u name it, $ is not an issue as mentioned by my SA bros here.

Mind your words, my forum have members almost hitting 3K in figures, if u not running a profit forum, i can say u stupid ! I drive a nice Subaru Impreza, have 2 families, also my lovers at GM2, they eat what? If my group don't make such $ , how i support my forum & my leisures? I'm a man, i have desires too, pls do understand my situation. Don't say i'm conman or cheating, u also using some dirty tricks, showing ppl here that you are a cerified judge, i know who u r, u r just trying to promote yr forum here. Ask ppl to join but saying non-profit forum, at the end of the day, u divert them to yr friend's shop in Pudu Plaza, so called a reliable dealer.

I have show my handsome face to the forum here, kindly dun censorsed, U r also one of the guys which i banned from my forum, selling fake stuffs but asking yr brother to pass to the members, when verify fake, u disappear. To show my sincerity & honesty to the members, i'm willing to give full refund to those that purchased from me before, real or fake doesn't matter, me Peter Lai, steady. Brudder, u got gd brains & network, do consider of linking my Singapore & yr side, we have lots of $ to see in future. Pm me ok, we can talk, no fight

[Sound Minister]

Originally Posted by sbj1994

Yes have to warn all to open their eyes big when dealing with such scammers.
One good example is the person 555 i warned about in my earlier post PETER LAI, this person act and talk like reputable and knowledgable but he is just another smooth operating conman. Donation scam, fake scam, even does put on offer to sell real prized competition amulets but passed the fakes to unsuspecting buyers. Operating a website with all his members supporting each other.

HAIZ let KARMA deal with such people

Really thanks for alerting, 'no smoke without fire', u r indeed someone who can prove yr reputability. Guess members from that forum now really have a clearer picture of what's going on, awareness is most right, dun listen to salesman talk. Sharing my views from some guys, all commented same thing, the so-called thread in that forum is only stirred up by what the admin & mods brought back to sell in that forum. But my friends went up to Thailand & checked, there's no such trend, it's all being arranged by them. Those so-called trendy amulets are selling dirt cheap prices & yet they are selling at zoom high prices.

'Paper cannot wrap fire', now that bro sbj1994 has show such cases & his identity as a reputable judge, think the truth has leaked out. SA members, do wake up !

[sixniner6969]

haiaaa...so many pages to read...so tiring lah.. Ok, I dun really post much, only when there is a need to, to complement or to give my 2 cents opinion about anything i've experienced...good or bad. I had rented 3 things from Archan Tim. Whether you choose to believe me or not, i don't give a damn. Let me just say this, I was a sceptic before i met him. After I rented something in particular from him, my life changed...literally and dramatically for the better. Dun ask me how or what happened because I won't and dun have the time to elaborate. Now, I am a true believer of the innate and unseen/ unfelt (for some people who are insensitive to spiritual item) power and existence of the spiriual realm. Archan Tim helped me, like it or not, believe it or not. The bottom line is this- Not everything you need to see or feel then you can believe....in the 4th dimension, the rules are very different, you need to believe first then you will see/ feel it.

Just my miserable 2 cts opinion. Good night.

[thaidisco_lover]

Clones up and working. Start to zap already?

Thai Amulets... 23-06-2008 03:10 AM They said you wanted to spliot the mood over here in

LOL what mood? Con style mood?

U need to learn to spell as well. I did not quite get your meaning.

If u are friend of Bro Necromancer, please kindly ask that pathetic wimp to OWN up...

Points do not matter in this forum. Not that I can exchange 1000 points for a Langsi Khun Paen... LOL

At most I just create a new nick to expose this con man.

[wanker10]

Originally Posted by thaidisco_lover

I just feel he needs to give the bros an answer to their doubts. I thought he always say feel free to ask him anything one?

You keep saying that you only want an anwer from Bro Nec as well as an answer from Bro Nec to all the bros that bought amulets/barangs from him. Now, who do you think you are to represent all of us? I am one whom bought many from him but i don't think i will get so heated up from knowing the fact that the price is inflated to as much as 1000% (as you claim) and i don't need you to get answer on my behalf. To me, few few grand or a few hundreds or a few tens is all depends on whether you have faith. Who can be qualified enough to judge a piece of spritual object of its worth. A piece of amulets that cost a few bucks in FLS, if works (help the wearer avoid danger the instance he wear it), he too will not let go even if someone offers him hundreds to let go. So please if you have any dispute with Bro Nec, please deal with him alone & not implicating the rest as if you are the spokeperson. Noble?

Only a few hunderd quid & so much commotion created.

[David_Ginola]

Originally Posted by thaidisco_lover

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Points do not matter in this forum. Not that I can exchange 1000 points for a Langsi Khun Paen... LOL

At most I just create a new nick to expose this con man.

Bro if only can exchange 1 piece of barang.......then i bother....hehe. Bro up u soon.

[Uppercut]

Originally Posted by thaidisco_lover

At most I just create a new nick to expose this con man.

I am also a victim in this league here, and have also suffered quite a few a few grands, which is nothing humble as compared to archan diehard supporters. According to my rough estimations, my losses is only a marginal difference from the so-called first top-supporter.

A few grands may be peanuts to the top supporter, but however, it could take several months to save up such a big amount to the rest of the victims who have yet to voice out..

In all, thai disco lover have never said Archan's barangs are fake and I also believe all are real. I have actually asked someone who help me verified each and every single barangs and amulets I bought from Archan and found out that all are genuine, but I was told, all are quite cheap as compared to the original price quoted by archan. BTW, I have happened to same the Hun payong which actually cost not more than $80bucks. If not for Bro Silvia, we will never make this big discovery so soon. More money would be poured into the scam till the last day this "Archan" retired for which he may not acknowledge any of the barangs rented from him by them. He was definitely no Archan. The first time I met him, I ask him about a previous FL which I had called by the name of Janice. She was at the same time under 2 OKT then..Old birds in FL dome will know about this. In fact, i talked to this OKT before, by the same golden contact number which was too easy to remember. Archan only told me ya that janice now never contact already..I told Archan he's a nice guy to make the OKT arrangement and do all the trouble as there was some problem encountered that day. That was why i have believed him all along. I remember there was a sparkle and smile on his face when i told him i dont know anything about thai amulets when he asked me(obvious reason why he was happy). The FL had also told me about the OKT cut of $20 per customer too, and told me she had not made much money through Necromancer II. So, she have decided to do on her own.(everyone call verified if u have the time).

To cut the story short: I was actually too embarassed about the whole thing when i found out the ultimate truth late. I didn't dare to post for the fear of getting mocked. But i just couldn't stand it anymore when i realise that he have cheated me MORE when i had been a diehard supporter. 1st:He actually quote me higher price than another bro, for the same takrut, he told me it is worth $600over but have actually RENTED it to another bro for $250. 2nd:he quoted bro insomia(total $600over damage estimation) of $1000 for each of the polar bear takrut and snake skin takrut but quoted me about $1,300 for the same barangs! 3rd:i am the one who booked and reserved the langsi kp from archan, and he had promised to keep for me till i get it but sold it to thai disco lover for a "quick sale". that is the 2nd piece of langsi kp btw for all to know. after that archan explained to me that that langsi kp "don't suit me anymore" and he have come out with a 1st batch langsi kp.i saw it during the one of the renting session with him and he now said it cost $900over(3rd piece). I didnt get it that month(expensive). On the next occassion i see him(recently), he told me he have reserved the langsi kp 1st batch for me..this time it is another piece of langsi kp(pim yai look). I asked him why different and he said that 1 is not suitable for me again, and said this is the best piece. For all info, this piece cost $1,300(4th piece).

through the months, i have actually questioned him several times but he always threatened me by saying "he is a very powerful archan, how i dare to question him like that". He also added that bro wanker10 have bought the most barangs and have won alot of money and very good with the barangs. He told me to trust him fully and let him select what barangs to take so that i can be as successful as him. He even told me bro wanker10 have bought over 50barangs(crap!!) from him since they met..

he have also warned me that either i take all his barangs collections(20over piece and expensive highends), or else dont reserve for me in future. That mean either I take or don't take.

what summaries are mentioned as above..and i urge all the newbies to think through carefully before getting from this archan.

[LoveThai]

Oh my, now the big question is how much does the langsi kp that me and thaidisco_lover currently holding really worth?

I know the amulet is not fake, but i really wanna know how much its worth

[m0n3ym1nd$$$]

Hope to see thsi archan conning in person. I will suan him big time!

[sbj1994]

Indeed it seems there are many victims now coming forward, sad but hope all will be wiser after this lesson.
I personally feel it is pointless pursuing the real cost and getting to the bottom and getting him to explain, which i dun think he will appear. Let's move on and remember not to get worked up till you take things into your own hands and get into trouble with the law. But on the other hand i think cannot let him get off scot free and carry on cheating others. Karma may be too slow in this instance. Let's post out his pics if any & all info relating to this conman to forewarn all the bros.