Nightlife in Chiang Rai/Mae Sai

[TonyCheong2]

Originally Posted by 1KnightinBKK

New frontiers ah.. very adventurous bro.. mus start new thread if as sexciting as BKK

Originally Posted by lost99

I think this is a good idea to start a new Mong La thread, perhaps the only/last wild west sex town in Asia....

Mong La is not off the beaten track.
It's super f*cking off the beaten track!
Almost the same as entering a war zone with temporary seize fire treaty.

PRCs enter illegally just to gamble in the jungles furthur away from the border.
I'm still researching if able to get in Mong La via China side legally.

But the usual route tourist take is air travel to Yangon and then land travel to Special Region 4.
Super far journey.
On the humsup issue the Myanmar Chinese ST rates are dirt cheap.

The border town Ruili (Yunnan) also quite cowboy also.

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

[1KnightinBKK]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong2

I'm still researching if able to get in Mong La via China side legally.
But the usual route tourist take is from Yangon and then to Special Region 4. Super far journey.

On the humsup issue the Myanmar Chinese ST rates are dirt cheap.

The border town Ruili (Yunnan) also quite cowboy also.

Love these new unexplored territories.. lol.. go there find some SYT and fulfill her dream of dating a foreigner, then we can play out our Korean superstar fantasies

[lost99]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong2

I'm still researching if able to get in via China side legally.

But the usual route tourist take is from Yangon and then to Special Region 4. Super far journey.

From another site, it appears some foregners have, but of course cannot confirm myself as i haven't been there. Even from China side, it's a long journey.

Need real visa to go to Mong La
Forget to mention, if you go to Mong La from Mae Sai, you need a real visa beforehand, the e visa letter does not work here, if you have visa, you do not need a guide to Mong La. If you go from the China side, most people just cross on a moto taxi without a visa, but it is officially illegal, but I see tons of Chinese do that all day, but one problem is big hotels will not accept customers without official entry stamps, but no worry there are many other hotels many with casino attached, will admit anyone even without any ID.

Another interesting thing is here is officially Myanmar but you see many Chinese police in uniform patrolling the streets.

my 2 pals from 141 site who traveled to China and made their way to the border Daluo, just took the motorbike and crossed the border without any immigration check, seems like all the tourists from China just come over without any travel documents

[TonyCheong2]

Originally Posted by 1KnightinBKK

Love these new unexplored territories.. lol.. go there find some SYT and fulfill her dream of dating a foreigner, then we can play out our Korean superstar fantasies.

In Mong La confirm can be "Korean Superstar" while eating Monkey brains!

Originally Posted by lost99

From another site, it appears some foregners have, but of course cannot confirm myself as i haven't been there. Even from China side, it's a long journey.

That means crossing from China will be the less hassle way but some form of risk taking is needed.
Non Chinese looking guys definitely cannot pull it off hahaha.

Nearest domestic Airport is Xishuangbanna Gasa Airport (JHG) 西双版纳嘎洒国际机场.
I think international flights will only stop at Kunming Changshui International Airport which is still very far from Mong La Town!

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[1KnightinBKK]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong2

That means crossing from China will be the less hassle way but some form of risk taking is needed.
Non Chinese looking guys definitely cannot pull it off hahaha.

Nearest domestic Airport is Xishuangbanna Gasa Airport (JHG) 西双版纳嘎洒国际机场.
I think international flights will only stop at Kunming Changshui International Airport which is still very far from Mong La Town!

if make some poor lass pregnant, every time want to visit father and mother hong gan

[TonyCheong2]

Originally Posted by 1KnightinBKK

if make some poor lass pregnant, every time want to visit father and mother hong gan

Some more the puying most likely no ID and passport and impossible to bring to Singapore to marry also!

Only way is to pay a lot of kopi money to Mong La warlord to issue you "PR" pass for your family visits liao!
Some more damn chum if stay there no job.
Only way is become wild animal hunter or trader!
Your SAF jungle training really can put to good use liao!

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[1KnightinBKK]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong2

Some more the puying most likely no ID and passport and impossible to bring to Singapore to marry also!

Only way is to pay a lot of kopi money to Mong La warlord to issue you "PR" pass for your family visits liao!

Hmm, online articles seem to suggest that most of the FLs there are chinese.. not exactly local..

I think many parts of Thailand still haven't explore finish

Someone told me Khon Kaen has the most thai daras, so alot of unpolished gems waiting to be unearthed..

[TonyCheong2]

Originally Posted by 1KnightinBKK

Hmm, online articles seem to suggest that most of the FLs there are chinese.. not exactly local..

The Mong La street FLs are Myanmar Chinese.
Not from China.

Same like those you see in Dannok's KPK area Clubs and KTVs.
Very fair and you cannot tell they are not PRCs until they talk.
After working many years in China I can tell from the accent.



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[1KnightinBKK]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong2

The Mong La street FLs are Myanmar Chinese.
Not from China.

Same like those you see in Dannok's KPK area Clubs and KTVs.
Very fair and you cannot tell they are not PRCs until they talk.
After working many years in China I can tell from the accent.

Have to call you Sifu liao, hope on my next visit to LOS can buy you a couple of shots, can't afford hand holding service..

[TonyCheong2]

Originally Posted by 1KnightinBKK

Have to call you Sifu liao, hope on my next visit to LOS can buy you a couple of shots, can't afford hand holding service..

Haha ok but once I start to drink can become very crazy and joker!

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[TonyCheong2]

Another cowboy town to introduce to you guys.

Pangkham (Panghsang) at Wa State (Special Region 2), Myanmar.

http://www.todayonline.com/world/mya...ese-come-party

PUBLISHED: 10:40 AM, JANUARY 22, 2017

PANGSAN, Myanmar - In a remote casino in northeastern Myanmar, China's pervasive campaign against graft has taken its toll. Hundreds of local traders and farmers place petty bets as low as 10 cents, outnumbering a few Chinese who were once the VIPs of a gambling hall decorated with chandeliers and Renaissance-style paintings.

"The business has been really bad since Chinese tourists stopped coming," said casino waitress Ling Ling who was considering leaving Pangsan, capital of the self-proclaimed Wa State that borders China, to look for better paying jobs.

The three-story gambling parlor, with some 1,000 workers, offers games from jackpot slot machines to high-stakes VIP rooms featuring bets of up to $16,000. It is deep in the Wa hills in one of Asia's poorest regions, where its majority ethnic Wa farmers earn an annual income of $115.

In the statelet the size of Belgium controlled by the United Wa State Army (UWSA), Myanmar's strongest ethnic armed group, the once bustling gambling industry is not the only casualty from the falling number of high-roller mainland punters.

From shopkeepers to moto-taxi drivers, local people said Beijing's tightening of visas for Chinese gamblers traveling to the Wa in recent years - part of the anti-corruption campaign launched by President Xi Jinping - has cast a shadow on livelihoods in the reclusive territory.

The Wa State is now trying to diversify its economy, which relies heavily on China as a market for its exports of rubber and metals such as tin.

Reuters visited the rugged territory in October - a rare trip by a major international news organization that offered a glimpse into the Chinese-speaking statelet of 600,000 people that is beyond the control of Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi's government.

POPPY ERADICATION

The Wa State took shape in 1989, after the Communist Party of Burma disintegrated following a purge by Wa leaders. The 30,000-strong UWSA signed a ceasefire with the Myanmar army shortly afterwards and the two sides have not fought in years.

Wa leaders say the region, which used to grow opium on a vast scale, underwent an eradication campaign against the plant used for production of heroin more than a decade ago. Poppy fields were replaced by plantations, mostly rubber, as well as coffee and tea, they say.

Many plantations are backed by investors from China, alongside businessmen connected to the Wa State leadership. Their "state-supported private companies", as described by several Wa leaders, control key businesses in the territory from gasoline to mining.

"I hope there is more foreign investment so that I can diversify my business," said C Yang, son of a UWSA commander who owns a rubber plantation of 132 acres.

The stocky 25-year-old is typical of the wealthy, if narrow, Wa elite. The rubber plantation affords him a comfortable life in a mansion overlooking Pangsan, and fancy gadgets such as the newest model of iPhone and a fine-tuned Toyota Hilux truck.

All these goods are unattainable for regular citizens in Wa, where life expectancy, at 60, is 5 years below Myanmar and 16 years behind neighboring China. Some Wa farmers rely on a World Food Programme (WFP) operation to supplement what they can produce.

The agency, active throughout the area which has also experienced outbreaks of vaccine-preventable diseases such as tuberculosis, had planned to deliver 152 metric tons of food last year through its community asset creation program.

"We don't have enough doctors and we are in need for medicines. We need help from the international community," said Tun Kyi, who oversees the Wa Healthcare Bureau.

NO OPPORTUNITIES

The Wa education program is in an equally poor state. The illiteracy rate stands at 90 percent, with 83 percent of adults having less than a year of schooling or none at all, according to a 2008 report by Health Poverty Action.

That is in sharp contrast to Myanmar's illiteracy rate of less than 5 percent, based on data from the United Nations.

Business owners and the Wa political elite send their children to China for schooling.

"Their parents want them to learn Chinese and to work in China, because children educated in Wa schools can't join the Chinese education system and have no opportunities," said Wa Wa Myint, a teacher at an elementary school of 700.

Back in downtown Pangsan, bright, neon signs dangling from low-rise hotels, massage parlors and bars light up the main street a few minutes walk from a border crossing with China.

A rowdy birthday party is under way in a two-story karaoke lounge that resembles a Roman temple, with life-size sculptures by its gate.

In a VIP room with a giant screen playing Chinese pop songs, a Wa woman, wearing jade-dotted earrings and a ruby ring, offers her guests China-imported beer, red wine and locally-made liquor.

The hostess challenges her guests to drink as much as they can.

"You can't go home without getting drunk," she says. "This is how we party in Wa." REUTERS

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[TonyCheong2]

This is about as old west frontier as it gets but in the east.
Best part is working language is Chinese [Check], mobile signal is from China [Check] and currency of choice is RMB [Check]!
It should a piece of cake and plug and play for me.

Via Yangon/Mandalay, Myanmar
Too far away from the border towns of Mong La and Panghsang.

Via Yunnan, China
Too many unknowns via Yunnan, China borders as have to enter Shan State illegally via unofficial channels.
We are not PRCs so cannot take this risk in case get extorted by authorities.
I will follow if any commandos or special forces reece before and lead the charge.

Via Chiang Mai/Chiang Rai, Thailand
To get to all these dodgy cowboy towns such as Mong La and Panghsang the best and most cost effective way I think is to take an international flight to Chiang Mai or Chiang Rai.
Cross via Mae Sai/Tachilek land border and proceed via coach to Mong La or Panghsang.

I finally have an excuse to go Chiang Mai liao!
My last trip is in 2005!
Wow it has been 12 years since I stepped into Chiang Mai!
I feel so old 5555!

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[Happyman007]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong2

I finally have an excuse to go Chiang Mai liao!
My last trip is in 2005!
Wow it has been 12 years since I stepped into Chiang Mai!
I feel so old 5555!

12 years ago CM also cowboy town, now CM is cow girl town.....neh neh big like cow with lots of milk

[TonyCheong2]

Originally Posted by Happyman007

12 years ago CM also cowboy town, now CM is cow girl town.....neh neh big like cow with lots of milk

That means only cowboy towns can excite and entice me to visit.
No wonder I MIA from Chiang Mai so long!

555 now Chiang Mai loaded big with China man tourist dollars!

If I do re-visit Chiang Mai again I must go back to Nimanhaemin to see if I can get back the feel when I was not that jaded and my heart was not so hardened.
Looking on hindsight I may have gained a lot of experience but have lost the sanuk factor.
Sometimes knowing too much spoils the fun.

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[sohbuckkong]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong2

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Almost the same as entering a war zone with temporary seize fire treaty.

I'm still researching if able to get in Mong La via China side legally.

But the usual route tourist take is air travel to Yangon and then land travel to Special Region 4.
Super far journey.
On the humsup issue the Myanmar Chinese ST rates are dirt cheap. ............[/SIZE][/I][/B]

How cheap the ST.
Tmr I fly airasia from SG to chiangrai. From the airport, I hope there's bus to the border. I read that there's a bus from airport to allure resort in Myanmar side near the border. If I can reach Allure resort then I will stay here a night, if not then no choice but to stay overnight in mae sai or tachiliek. Hope to stay only in cheap guest house. Hopefully in mae sai or tachiliek I can find some travel agent to buy a bus ticket to mongla via kengtung. Lastly, I hope there's cheap guesthouse in mongla, even room with only fan is OK for me.
Hopefully in mongla there's cheap motorcycle for rent so that I can explore the town.

And last but not least, I will post my adventure and latest findings here. Hope there's internet access for me to post here live (within 24hrs) .