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[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by sex crusader

Great Results! Reds-4, Rangers-0.The young frenchman is quite impressive, a little shadow of Cisse.

Did you watch the match? I believe the frenchman you were mentioning is Ngog right? Is he good? At $1.5 million pounds and 19 years old, Rafa spoke about him challenging for a place in the starting 11. So young so cheap so good? This feels so retro... the price is like we just bought Peter Beardley in 1987!

[sex crusader]

Yup... i watched the match! From the match, i don't think we even need to buy Barry, Alonso is good enough!Ya.. Ngog is pacy and sharp on goal.He scored with so many defenders around.From this match and those before, i can say that we have a very talented group of young second string players that can take over anytime in the EPL.Another note, there is really an over hype by Rafa on the Keane/Torres pairing.I would rather see Ngog/Torres in attack.

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by sex crusader

Ya.. Ngog is pacy and sharp on goal.He scored with so many defenders around.From this match and those before, i can say that we have a very talented group of young second string players that can take over anytime in the EPL.Another note, there is really an over hype by Rafa on the Keane/Torres pairing.I would rather see Ngog/Torres in attack.

Wow, Ngog is so good he can replace Keane in your eyes? A gem of a find then. Who knows... he may be the signing of the season.

But you compare him to Cisse leh... Cisse isn't that great a player. Seldom passes, seldom scores... a one trick pony who can run fast and shoot hard only. I dun recall Cisse ever trying to lob a goalie in a 1-1 situation.

[shadezz69]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

Did you watch the match? I believe the frenchman you were mentioning is Ngog right? Is he good? At $1.5 million pounds and 19 years old, Rafa spoke about him challenging for a place in the starting 11. So young so cheap so good? This feels so retro... the price is like we just bought Peter Beardley in 1987!

Yes... The No. 24 is David Ngog. From last nite match, I'd certainly hope to see more of Ngog, Plessis and maybe Nemeth challenging for places in the 1st place. Maybe Rafa can use them in the League or FA Cup ties at the initial stages and gauge from there? Ngog look sharp and a brainy player to me... hopefully, with more games (and goals)... he will gain more confidence in his game play.

On the other transfer note, as read from the espnsoccer website, it seems like G Barry could join Liverpool if we met Villa's valuation. Reports seem to suggest that it's all down to Liverpool to make a decision on getting Barry. Pardon me... but I just dont know why we do need Barry that earnestly? I was initially hoping to see we sign a couple of natural, good wingers instead... but I suppose if we done the deal with Barry... he could very well be the last player to join Liverpool this season.... which means we gonna see Kyut, Pennant, Babel, Benayoun playing out wide again? Sigh...

[qw2op]

Originally Posted by sex crusader

Great Results! Reds-4, Rangers-0.The young frenchman is quite impressive, a little shadow of Cisse.

me watched 2nd half of tis match ... so din c 1st gol ...

ngog looked gd ... he seemed selfish when it cums 2 scoring gols ... but den, a striker's role is 2 score gols ...

me like ze 3rd gol most ... like ze attacking power shown by ze team ...

[sex crusader]

First goal scored by torres after a long blast by another young french lad.I couldn'nt get his name. He is not bad in mid-field.A bit of PAtrick Vierra!

[sex crusader]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

Wow, Ngog is so good he can replace Keane in your eyes? A gem of a find then. Who knows... he may be the signing of the season.

But you compare him to Cisse leh... Cisse isn't that great a player. Seldom passes, seldom scores... a one trick pony who can run fast and shoot hard only. I dun recall Cisse ever trying to lob a goalie in a 1-1 situation.

With few more games, i think Ngog can be someone in Anfield.What i meant was the goal that he scored look alike of one of Cisse's.He is definetely more energetic than Cisse.He is of same ht. as Torres by the look at it.I'm not sure at this moment Keane is a good signing.Let's wait and see.

[NZL97]

i think that Barry will definately complement the midfield as he can both score & defend and link up well with Stevie G plus they have good understanding as they are good mates. a midfield with barry, gerrard, mash, alonso is definately mouth watering indeed..........So bring him in........messer Benitez & the yanks (pls provide the cash pls)...........

also, the rangers game last nite remind everyone the class of yossi benayoun.........the way he dribble & run & he seems to be more hardworking this season with the way he chases after the ball.......juz like kuyt..........only complain i had of yossi is that he tends to overdribble & should shoot more on sight...........

torres, as usual look sharp & i was impressed with both ngog & nemeth...........keane look a bit rusty but should get better as the season progress..........really looking forward to the new season...........

come on you reds!!!!!!!!!!!!

[_AXL_]

Originally Posted by rahl

ESPNsoccernet - England - O'Neill accepts Barry could still join Liverpool

Wouldn't it be particularly good now if we DON'T sign Barry? LOL

i dont like the fact that gerrard was being pushed into the holding midfield role last nite. he wasnt getting into the box late as much as i would like him to do.

barry will go straight into the team playing as the defensive midfield alongside mascherano, with alonso as backup thus freeing gerrard to wreak havoc upfront... well, at least for me. question is whether this option is worth 18mil.

Originally Posted by sex crusader

Yup... i watched the match! From the match, i don't think we even need to buy Barry, Alonso is good enough!Ya.. Ngog is pacy and sharp on goal.He scored with so many defenders around.From this match and those before, i can say that we have a very talented group of young second string players that can take over anytime in the EPL.Another note, there is really an over hype by Rafa on the Keane/Torres pairing.I would rather see Ngog/Torres in attack.

i heaved a sigh of relief for ngog when he scored cos he should have passed to kuyt who was marauding down ngog's right into the penalty box totally unmarked. so either,

1. he has not got used to playing with the team yet, thus he didnt see. but then again, he was doing a milan baros and not looking up. think he needs more time.

2. he was trying to impress the boss.

so, ngog still has a long way to go. keane on the other hand, i just forgot how graceful and effortless he was whenever he got the ball deep and bring up, always looking to pass. keane and torres still have a long way to forge a good strike partnership, but i have no doubt they will be a roaring success.

Originally Posted by NZL97

also, the rangers game last nite remind everyone the class of yossi benayoun.........the way he dribble & run & he seems to be more hardworking this season with the way he chases after the ball.......juz like kuyt..........only complain i had of yossi is that he tends to overdribble & should shoot more on sight....

yeah man!!! benayoun was breath-taking... he was causing a lot of panic in the rangers defence, although he didnt get anywhere much with his over-dribbling. i was particularly impressed with nemeth's first time shot that led to the goal by benayoun. he is young, isnt he??? damn, i like him already.

but rangers didnt put up much of a fight except for the first half. a friendly is still a friendly, although tackles were still flying around. just hope that pool can play with such a high tempo when the league starts. liked the way they pressed the opposition so much that they didnt have much time on the ball to look for passes...

bros, no offence if i didnt agree. just putting it up for discussion. cheers. YNWA.

[rahl]

Originally Posted by _AXL_

i dont like the fact that gerrard was being pushed into the holding midfield role last nite. he wasnt getting into the box late as much as i would like him to do.

barry will go straight into the team playing as the defensive midfield alongside mascherano, with alonso as backup thus freeing gerrard to wreak havoc upfront... well, at least for me. question is whether this option is worth 18mil.

Bro, we are likely to see players changing positions in the course of a match, and substitutes coming into a new formation late in the match. This is very clear from the players that Rafa has targeted this season, particularly Barry and Keane, who can play different positions.

So if people can look at what Rafa does and what he says, they will realise he is NOT going to get a winger, who can play only one position and live and die on the sidelines (literally).

[wolfclan]

Originally Posted by sex crusader

First goal scored by torres after a long blast by another young french lad.I couldn'nt get his name. He is not bad in mid-field.A bit of PAtrick Vierra!

Damien Plessis is the player you are mentioning here bro. nice powerful shot leading to a goal by el nino.

[wolfclan]

Originally Posted by rahl

ESPNsoccernet - England - O'Neill accepts Barry could still join Liverpool

Wouldn't it be particularly good now if we DON'T sign Barry? LOL

On a more serious note, I find it interesting that we seem to (or have been perceived to) delay/bargain the Barry deal while we have done the Keane transfer much more quickly and smoothly, for a similarly large sum of money (almost tantamount to overpaying), plus add an extra to the Spurs charity.

This seems to cast doubt on two theories - that we have no money and that we are being difficult on the Barry case. One apparent explanation is that we don't value Barry as much as Keane, not sure how true that it though. In any case, it is quite clear that the MON factor is quite negligible.

not sure is it we dun rate Barry as highly or some other hidden issue.
MON blasted Rafa for speaking to the press on Barry first isnt it? and now the drama is set to drag on, and certainly will be interesting to see wat will happen to Villa if Barry did not move and stay with them, how will others react? playing with a player that wants to move on.......

but i certainly feel Barry will be good for us, especially with mascherano not around, and will need to fly all over to SA for Arg WC qualifier, Barry have the experience and having played with SG, does not need the bedding in period, but then again, who knows, maybe Damien Plessis can do what Mascherano and Barry can do......he might need more experience though.

Anyway i feel, whether Barry comes, or not, the team that is most effected is probably Villa.

[wolfclan]

Originally Posted by _AXL_

i dont like the fact that gerrard was being pushed into the holding midfield role last nite. he wasnt getting into the box late as much as i would like him to do.

barry will go straight into the team playing as the defensive midfield alongside mascherano, with alonso as backup thus freeing gerrard to wreak havoc upfront... well, at least for me. question is whether this option is worth 18mil.

maybe Damien Plessis can do the job when mascherano not ard? but he is young and might not have enough experience.....

Originally Posted by _AXL_

i heaved a sigh of relief for ngog when he scored cos he should have passed to kuyt who was marauding down ngog's right into the penalty box totally unmarked. so either,

1. he has not got used to playing with the team yet, thus he didnt see. but then again, he was doing a milan baros and not looking up. think he needs more time.

2. he was trying to impress the boss.

so, ngog still has a long way to go. keane on the other hand, i just forgot how graceful and effortless he was whenever he got the ball deep and bring up, always looking to pass. keane and torres still have a long way to forge a good strike partnership, but i have no doubt they will be a roaring success.

another way of looking at it, he is intelligent enough to know kuyt have pull a defender attention away and thus allowing him to shoot?? and of course, he scored, if not everyone will be asking wat he is doing not???

i do feel he tends to shoot more then pass, which is wat a striker should be doing, saw him shoot at goal from outside the box (hope i did not get the wrong player) he do look good with his movement though, and also control.

Originally Posted by _AXL_

yeah man!!! benayoun was breath-taking... he was causing a lot of panic in the rangers defence, although he didnt get anywhere much with his over-dribbling. i was particularly impressed with nemeth's first time shot that led to the goal by benayoun. he is young, isnt he??? damn, i like him already.

but rangers didnt put up much of a fight except for the first half. a friendly is still a friendly, although tackles were still flying around. just hope that pool can play with such a high tempo when the league starts. liked the way they pressed the opposition so much that they didnt have much time on the ball to look for passes...

bros, no offence if i didnt agree. just putting it up for discussion. cheers. YNWA.

yes netmeth wears no 55 and is 19 this year, still young, and he was tip to be one of the few to break into the first team though,

benayoun, was as hardworking as in the last season, always 'disturbing' the opposition defenders, if i am the defenders, sure dun like to see him ard, remembering last season, in one of the game, he was the player who rob the ball back outside the oppo penalty box and created the goal for SG (if not wrong)

well certainly hope this season we can win the league, cheers YNWA

[rahl]

Originally Posted by wolfclan

but i certainly feel Barry will be good for us, especially with mascherano not around, and will need to fly all over to SA for Arg WC qualifier, Barry have the experience and having played with SG, does not need the bedding in period, but then again, who knows, maybe Damien Plessis can do what Mascherano and Barry can do......he might need more experience though.

Bro, I am quite sure Barry will leave now and it will be to us. MON knows there's no more hope of detaining him. Plessis is a bright young talent but in the role he plays, it's too much of a risk to depend on him alone.

Yes it's alot of money for Barry but I think many fans are upset cos it means Alonso has to leave (not sure about this from Rafa's latest comments). It means we are being treated as a top club by smaller clubs, so I suppose we should accept this in future and get along with it.

[Xgenre]

If you guys remember, after Rafa won the champions league in his first season (coming back from 3-0 down in the first half somemore), there is a saying among Liverpool's fans. It's called 'In Rafa we trust'. Rafa wants Barry so much. I'm sure he would have a system in mind already where Barry's inclusion adds value and an extra dimension to the team. It's just that we, as fans, can't find out how this system will go exactly yet. I will trust Rafa's judgement on Barry. To be honest, Alonso has had a forgettable season last year by his own high standards. Knowing how his place is in danger, I think we will see Alonso back to his best.

The other issue to me will be the youngsters. I think it will be a waste if they are only to play in the reserve league or the earlier stages of the League cup only. How many high quality competitive games will they get per year? We should loan as many out to Premiership or Championship sides as possible. We have a very good crop of youngsters, better than any team's youngsters, including Arsenal's and Man U's.