Angeles City (Balibago) Tips

[Little Gun]

Really loved the blow-by-blow FR by Rub&Buah.

Definitely brought back a lot of memories for me too, especially on the small bars scenarios where I had no where to run but to be molested by these girls. Hahaha.... Anyway, I had already purchased my ticket to go AC from 16-19 Sept. If any of you guys are going to be there during that time, can meet up!

[ZIEBART]

Thanks Rub&Buah for detailed FR. Glad you enjoyed yourself and sorry that you were done in by some girls.
I was at DMIA yesterday and was queue in front of a few Malaysian men who were discussing their experiences with their girls. One was cursing and swearing at how he was played by his girl re: tips, super short time and attitude. I can only smile cos he is not alone. I met 2 other Singaporeans who paid big bills when their girls brought them to a sister bar and ordered doubles like there was no tomorrow.
I wonder what is on the mind of the filipinas as they "work" on the newbies that they catch. Anyone care to contribute on what these girls are "planning"?

[norice]

Ziebart,

All the working girls are same, either in Philippines or Thailand, their goal is to maximize their profit! All the girls are from poor families from the provinces, they're uneducated, lack of common sense and they believe all foreigners have money! So, the best advice is to just have fun with them short time and leave quickly as possible, don't fall in love! Everybody got burned once in their lifetime in PI or Thailand! Don't let their appearance or demeanor fool you, in the longrun, all the bar girls are crooks! Bargirls 101...

[etsys]

Originally Posted by norice

Ziebart,

All the working girls are same, either in Philippines or Thailand, their goal is to maximize their profit! All the girls are from poor families from the provinces, they're uneducated, lack of common sense and they believe all foreigners have money! So, the best advice is to just have fun with them short time and leave quickly as possible, don't fall in love! Everybody got burned once in their lifetime in PI or Thailand! Don't let their appearance or demeanor fool you, in the longrun, all the bar girls are crooks! Bargirls 101...

Roger that norice : only novices get screwed .. and all the story of Bar fine = NOT EQUAL TO SEX .. and all come out because of guys not being proper in their initial interrogation - Always view the following video - atleast twice ..

Anyway, if guys complain they got ripped off - I only assume they haven't been to places like Paramount / Tanjong Pagar - Given these are filipino joints, but then again, how different it is from Chinese KTVs ??

For me - if the girl starts to swallow the drunks, then time to move out .. and you can't blame them - they are to make money, so if they can clock a few thousand peso on LD - instead of opening the legs (which they want to keep for their boyfriends .. ) why not ??

After all - it is fair game mate.

[etsys]

And one more :

[etsys]

PS: I saw on another forum of a guy who burnt 40,000 peso in Makati - he forgot to mention that he was sitting in a bar in Makati which is hawking "RUSSIAN" Girls - I kid you not .. and if you go to another country and want to get 'exotic' stuff - DONT WHINE. The girls in the bar he paid 40,000 peso has girls doing Lap-dance - 2 minutes at 2,000 peso, plus 1,600 for LD - if you are that dumb or blinded - no comments

[norice]

etsys,

Not only newbies get burned, I've seen veterans too! It's just timing, luck and intestinal fortitude that will save you but too much empathy will make a sucker out of you all the time! It's nice to be generous, kind and giving but when I'm deceived by a bar girl then that's when I draw the line! I never got burned in Bangkok but got burned several times in Pattaya!

[etsys]

Originally Posted by norice

etsys,

Not only newbies get burned, I've seen veterans too! It's just timing, luck and intestinal fortitude that will save you but too much empathy will make a sucker out of you all the time! It's nice to be generous, kind and giving but when I'm deceived by a bar girl then that's when I draw the line! I never got burned in Bangkok but got burned several times in Pattaya!

The most important thing is this kind of situation is to have the strength and resolve to 'cut the loss and walk out' when things don't look good.

Investing more only will aggravate the problem by encouraging the girls that you are a sucker ..

And if you think one girl is screwed and want to switch, that is like committing suicide in Bars, especially when it comes to Philippines, because once you have shown yourself to be a sucker, you are a sucker. .. end of story.

Well, I will never blame the girls. Almost the same as in Philippines, I know enough guys who burn enough money in TP bars and PM bars - just for some rub-a-dub .. and then keep burning money for more LD hoping to get the girl, little do they know the girls don't have a target - their target is to make maximum money considering they are on Social visit pass..

And the girls in Philippines ? They are not too different I guess: they too are to make the maximum amount of money, and if they can do a runner and get some more sex from their passionate boyfriend - who doesn't pay money for sex - well, why not ?

Anyway, a sucker is born everyday .. we all learn ..

[Ah_Hia]

Originally Posted by ZIEBART

I wonder what is on the mind of the filipinas as they "work" on the newbies that they catch. Anyone care to contribute on what these girls are "planning"?

Come on.....U've been going there for so long and u still dunno this ?
I'm sure u would have clocked more than 100 days in the PI.
That much mileage sure u know more than 1 thing about the system.

[yinyang]

Originally Posted by etsys

all the story of Bar fine = NOT EQUAL TO SEX ..
if guys complain they got ripped off - I only assume they haven't been to places like Paramount / Tanjong Pagar - Given these are filipino joints, but then again, how different it is from Chinese KTVs ??

Almost the same as in Philippines, I know enough guys who burn enough money in TP bars and PM bars - just for some rub-a-dub .. and then keep burning money for more LD hoping to get the girl...target is to make maximum money considering they are on Social visit pass..

Not been to AC, holding out to temptation though (more of LOS kaki, with easier flight commute amongst other excuses). But I have done the likes of Manila's Borgos street (excuse bad spell), Cathouse etc -which probably costs than AC.

But your SG comparison on futility of hoping to bed pinoys is bang on. Not just TP and PM, but also sampled some at OT bar (on ground floor next to entrance). Awhile back, had a good cohort of yummy dancers (couple did some professional gigs). On their 1st days here, 2 of us got our picks for a bak kut teh lunch. I cut to chase, and asked she wanted "quality time". We then went separate ways, got into my wheels and I propositioned H81. Then, horrors she'd misunderstood my intention for a private date or outing (minus her friend). She broke down (no croc tears), and I had to appease her with ice cream treat at east coast lagoon I saw the "light", there's no fast track nor guarantees (no way I'm putting good money for uncertain outcome of happy ending). Since then she has been here on more than 2 tours of duty, and have expensive gifts like laptops, mobiles to show (may end up on ebay next!).

[etsys]

Originally Posted by Ah_Hia

Come on.....U've been going there for so long and u still dunno this ?
I'm sure u would have clocked more than 100 days in the PI.
That much mileage sure u know more than 1 thing about the system.

if you try to figure out what is in the mind of a filipina - damn, I can contribute volumes on that subject ..

Or simply - make a lot of money and buy a house, and entice a sailor/ofw countryman, so she is in a position to retire

Also reminds me of a filipino dating site, where a 20 year old girl says "I am 20 years, nothing to do, so I want to get married.. "

Nothing to do - so get married ?? haha .. Try explaining that for a start.

Cheers mate

[etsys]

Originally Posted by yinyang

Not just TP and PM, but also sampled some at OT bar (on ground floor next to entrance). Awhile back, had a good cohort of yummy dancers (couple did some professional gigs). On their 1st days here, 2 of us got our picks for a bak kut teh lunch. I cut to chase, and asked she wanted "quality time". We then went separate ways, got into my wheels and I propositioned H81. Then, horrors she'd misunderstood my intention for a private date or outing (minus her friend). She broke down (no croc tears), and I had to appease her with ice cream treat at east coast lagoon I saw the "light", there's no fast track nor guarantees (no way I'm putting good money for uncertain outcome of happy ending). Since then she has been here on more than 2 tours of duty, and have expensive gifts like laptops, mobiles to show (may end up on ebay next!).

If only you had asked me .. in that bar, the dancers are under legal employment, go for medical, and the 6 month performing artist work pass - not saying zero - but for the dancers about 99% no chance .. the 1% is those guys who are not only sincere, but 'win' their heart for them to risk loosing their job and spend time with the guy (the bar kicks out girls and RTB if they are found whoring - no kidding .. same goes for the bars under the same management where they employ dancers .. - unlike the bars in the basement where dancers are on social visit or lowly paid and encouraged to tapau .. )

You should have instead hit on the working girls in the same bar, who would have made you buy some drinks and then cut the crap and gone straight to the subject matter and negotiated..

Agreed, the dancers are hot and sweet - and since they are sweet, they are not hooking, unlike the less sweeter girls in that bar who are on social visa and hooking

As for the laptop / mobile phone ? they dont end up on Ebay - they end up on the pawn shop in Philippines when they run out of money - you know the performing artist pass right ? 6 months on and 6 months off.

My own opinion ? these girls will open up primarily to guys who are a) single, b) own their own place / condo (so they can come back on social visit and bunk in while waiting for their next contract) and c) not always about money, but about guys who are happy to hit them atleast 300 points X 15 $ A MONTH (which is the quota approx before they start to earn commission on their drinks .. )

Cheers mate

[norice]

etsys,

I don't know how many years of bar scene experience you have but it's all about the money! Money and nothing else, others are only for show only! It's not how you look, your personality or nationality if you have the money, you scored! Money talks and shit stinks! Only in Thermae Coffee Shop, it helps to be Asian.

[etsys]

Originally Posted by norice

etsys,

I don't know how many years of bar scene experience you have but it's all about the money! Money and nothing else, others are only for show only! It's not how you look, your personality or nationality if you have the money, you scored! Money talks and shit stinks! Only in Thermae Coffee Shop, it helps to be Asian.

Yah bro .. you are correct .. that's why I said - most girls want to make money from other guys, and then find a 'native' to marry and live happily ....

And money talks .. even for rub-a-dub .. money guy gets more rub ..

Cheers...

[Ah_Hia]

Originally Posted by etsys

if you try to figure out what is in the mind of a filipina - damn, I can contribute volumes on that subject ..

Or simply - make a lot of money and buy a house, and entice a sailor/ofw countryman, so she is in a position to retire

I find Thai/Viets/China more adept with handling money than filipinas who are in the trade of selling their bodies.

I've seen bargirls in AC 5 years down the road and still working in a bar.
My first barfine in AC 5 years ago is still working in the same bar.

They can't save, always spending the money on load, and the worst is their pamily......money sucking leeches.