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1] They will usually waive your drinks if you didn't drink too much. I had mine waived before, me and a friend drank about 3-4 cans of 333 beer and 2-4 ladies drinks. 2] If you go early and pickup a good one... just pay barfine and bring the girl out to some cafe or disco or whatever... before finally ending up in your hotel room for a more GFE kinda of F job. The girl will feel happier going out with someone who bothers to romance her a little, rather than going straight into sex. Thus you get better service in return. 3] If you like the girl, you can call her up again next time (but do call before they reach their work place) and tell her not to work for that day, she will be glad to "take mc" and go out with you for a romantic evening. However, she still need to pay a fine for being absent from work, you proabaly need to be gentlemen enough to top it up for her. It's not a lot of money, I am not sure how much, but I guess it's also around 300-400K vnd. 
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I have walked pass those pubs at Hai ba trung so many times but didn't go in there. I thought those were more for chopping ang moh carrot head. Anyway, going again in a week's time so can check it out and report back.
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EG: to bring girl from Bar 91, the charges are: LT Charge for Girl USD$100 BAR FINE USD$30 Total USD$130. This is before your bill for drinks etc etc...
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25-02-2009, 11:33 AM
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Few days ago, went to District 6 to meet up one of the FL introduce by 1 of the brothers here.
She is about 24 yo look quite pretty. B+ cup neh neh. Long hair.. So I "confirmed" the deal and she bring me to a Hotel. Look : 7/10 Body: 7/10 B+ Breast but I think it might be enhanced. Service: 8/10 including BBBJ Charges for 90 minutes/ 2shots: I million Hotel: VND150K for 2 hours including 3 "OK" brand CD and 3 Mineral water. Basically she is very friendly but my Tien Viet sucks or else it will be better I think. P/S: She can come to your hotel in dist 1 but it will be after 6pm.
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My Personal Experiences in HCMC, Vietnam
The New Year has come and gone and it’s already nearly March. I haven’t been keeping up with my New Year’s resolutions and since I have nothing better to do (haha), I have decided to take stock in another way - to post about some of my experiences meeting Vietnamese women since moving to Ho Chi Minh City about 7 months ago and living here full-time since then.
More specifically, the aim of this post is to serve as a wake-up call for those of you who are thinking of anything long term (LTR, marriage?) with any Vietnamese woman who was previously, is currently, or is thinking of getting involved in commercial sex (which is what this forum is about) i.e. the transaction of the girl’s time and company and/or sexual services for money. In HCMC, this would comprise girls working at all KTVs, bia-oms, bi da-oms, FL bars, disco FL and PR girls, hair wash salon girls, etc. etc. Even girls you meet in nightclubs who seem to be just 'normal, regular girls'. Since the average income in Vietnam is around VND 2.000.000 / month (about SGD 174 /month using current rates), those of us who live here know that the line between FL and non-FL is quite fuzzy, i.e. very big ‘grey zone’. For the Vietnam lao-jiaos, this is intended as leisure reading. I am sure this post will ruffle some feathers out there – some of you may take this as if I am ‘gei kiang’ or boasting about my experience or that I am making this up. You may choose to believe me or not, but most of all, it is my own personal wake-up call to living in Vietnam and knowing how the game is played here. The following are my own personal experiences, in no particular order; names have been changed to protect the not-so-innocent: Girl A, PR at a disco Was smitten by her youthful innocence (just turned 21). Tipped her the first time I met her, then refused any tip from me on all subsequent visits to the disco. Went on occasional dates with her once or twice a week. Took her shopping once or twice (I initiated both times) in total. Took about a month of dating before she would sleep with me, then slept over at my place periodically. Took her on a weekend holiday (also my decision, and to a neighbouring country) and had a great time. Not once did she ask me for money, but you pay in other ways. One night, went to the disco where she works with a male Viet Kieu (overseas Vietnamese) friend of mine. Don’t know whether her colleagues sabo her or not, but some of them told him (and he then told me) that she has a Vietnamese sugar daddy – guy in his 60s – and that I was just her ‘boy toy’ to go out and have fun with. On a subsequent visit to the disco I saw her with a guy that 'fit the description'. Really VN ah-pek trying to act cool. *sigh* Not so innocent after all. Terminated contact with her shortly after. Girl B, non-FL Met her in a disco. She was partying with her group of friends, I with mine. Exchanged phone numbers, went out partying together several times. Fun girl but flirted with all my friends. Invited her home one night but played the cockteaser in the beginning with me. Tells me she works as a waitress in a restaurant. Recently introduced a friend to her who ended up screwing her first before me! LOL nvm. More recently, left for Singapore (first time overseas) to visit her ‘sister’. xiao liao, we all know what that means. Terminated contact. Girl C, PR/FL at a Bar She was a little older (about 26-27). Same thing, tipped her the first time I met her, then refused any tip from me on subsequent visits. Stopped working shortly after she met me (she says because of me, but I suspect it was her excuse to ask me for a monthly maintenance fee). She told me she’s had 1 Viet Kieu and 1 Malaysian boyfriend before. I suspect many more. Frequents the disco scene and admitted to me that she has many Viet Kieu contacts, many of whom call her when they are in Vietnam to introduce ‘party girls’ to them. Gave me her passport to keep, in it are 2 separate entries to Cambodia. Told me one day that a Malaysian guy she met a while ago proposed to her to move there (Phnom Penh) to live with him. Clever girl - told me he would give her USD 2000 / month as maintenance, then told me she doesn’t want to be with him and wants to stay with me. She then asked me for a sum (a small fraction of the above amount) to survive on while she is not working. I accepted. Two months later she tells me she is bored and wants to go back to work (where she was working previously and where we met for the first time), then sneakily tries to convince me to double the amount (of maintenance fee) previously agreed. Terminated contact shortly after. Girl D, non-FL Met her in a disco. Same thing, she was partying with her group of friends, I with mine. Exchanged phone numbers, went out partying together once. Told me she is a minor actress in a movie. Went to watch the movie, she was merely an extra. Lost contact over Tet when she returned to Nha Trang and I to Singapore. A month later one fine Friday she calls me at 7:30 AM telling me she has just arrived from Nha Trang on the overnight bus and was staying in a boarding house in Pham Ngu Lao. Decided to put her up in a hotel for the weekend as a present to her (and to me heheheh). Went out partying and spent the night together. The next morning her female friend arrives – I thought just to see her for a while but she arrives with a suitcase! I had to kick myself out of the room (which I paid for!) On the day she was supposed to check out she had the audacity to ask me for more help by extending the room – I told her I helped her enough already. She told me she would have to sleep on the street – I told her to go ahead, be my guest! Terminated contact. Girl E, non-FL Met her in a disco. Older girl (31) but young-looking and pretty. Same thing, she was partying with her group of friends, I with mine. Exchanged phone numbers, went out partying together again. Amazingly, the second time we went out she had the audacity to ask my friend and I for 1 of our bottle cards (she had no part in paying the bill of course, we had 3 bottles remaining that night) after we had settled the bill. After that we went for supper. Again she tried to ask for 1 of our bottle cards. Amazing. 2 days after that another friend of mine tells me that she had just sms him to ask for money to buy a phone card because she is short of money and is ‘too shy’ to ask me! This time I had it. She is really no class, buay zai liao. Terminated contact with her. This is just a sample and there are many more but the end result is the same, so I will stop here. So basically since I arrived in HCMC I have now come full circle after 7 months and am still a (single) happy f*cker. Conclusion: In Vietnam, unless you meet a girl from a rich family (0.01% of the population), the girl is in it for the money and you have to contend with the kind of bullshit as described above. Pardon my straightforwardness but please, don't think your fairy tale romance is real, that your bx from Can Tho or the Mekong Delta which you met in some bar in Joo Chiat bar or along L42 or at Volcano truly loves you. If not for your foreigner status and your spending power and the chance to get out of the shithole she lives in, she would not be with you. Go ahead and try. Tell me if I am wrong. Then again, this is just my 0.02 cents. I end this post with some memorable quotes that I am reminded of: “If I have money, I no live Vietnam. I am Vietnamese, but Vietnamese people very bad!” – my regular xe om driver, in his late 50s. “In Vietnam, guys you can trust hard to find, girls you can fuck, too many.” – a fellow Singaporean who visits here regularly and is a member of this board. “99.99% of ALL WOMEN you meet in Vietnam are in it for the money.” – my best friend in HCMC The last quote above I find to be fairly concurrent with the percentage of the population who are considered rich in Vietnam - a 'guess-timate' of around 0.01% of the population. 0.01% of 80 million is 8,000.
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The picture painted here is pretty grim but that is the sad reality. I've witnessed many Sillypore or Malay-boleh guys married Viet gers, with veri high percentage not in happy endings. Kinda sorry for these guys as they ventured overseas to work and at the end of the days, wasted their hard earned monies away ...  Having said tat, we shouldn't stop having fun (just be wary of the circumstances & not to get hurt). We need to contribute to the local economy lar especially in this economy downturn time. Btw, time is so bad tat the ktv gers in Fortune has no enuf VND to buy bra liow ... all gers go bra-less 
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All should heed the advice provided by Raverboy....
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I frequent the locals places more than the discos and well-known cafes. Most of the nice ladies I met either got a proper job or have not been influenced.
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i myself got involved in relationships with WLs before. i agree with most of the post except that the percentage of rich families in big cities like HCM should be much higher than 0.01%. if you guys want to find decent ladies, better stay away from places like disco, bars, etc. a woman with normal career and life doesn't usually party there (generally) my 2 cents 
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