Ever fall in love with a massage girl

[tanman]

I thought the father go and ask where to get massage from the ML? Thought that will be the normal reaction 😜

Originally Posted by need_it

An interesting development. A couple of weeks back, a friend was invited to his cousin’s early family reunion dinner. I heard from this friend that this cousin who hosted the dinner shared his gf’s photos to him and the other cousin. As it turns out, that cousin identified her to be a ML/FL who has RTC-ed! He didn’t tell the host cousin, but went to tell his own dad, and his dad went to tell the host’s dad. Now everyone in the family knows the host’s gf was a ML/FL. The cousin who visited her had fucked her twice. Embarrassment max.

Apparently this guy is a successful white collar in his 40s and single. The ML/FL seems quite chio but has since returned to China. Though no complication of extramarital affairs, I wonder how he will move on with this ML/FL.

[Samtotato]

Originally Posted by lonelyfish

I did not cut off my family because of the ML or any sex worker. It was because of other personal matter which is controversial. Without them, I removed quite a lot of limitations and able to do the things I wanted to do. Tbh, I quite like my current Viet ML, she's the one fixing my deprives regularly now. But her baggage is too much for me to handle so we can at most remain as FWB. Otherwise I would have tried to make her change her job and keep her. Now I have plans to go somewhere to find a long term and possibly permanent girl.

Why I don't mind looking beyond the ML's past. I pick my MLs selectively. They are mostly those who did not have intention to come here to fuck. I don't think they have fucked with more number of guys than the number of girls I've fucked. Not an amazing number, but it's enough for me to have a sense of achievement. Sometimes, it is better not to know the past. Probably only the professional sex workers like MLs at fuck shops, FLs and WLs will have more.

Understandable bro.now i get the picture.. thks for explanation.
That aside... admire your raw with ML experiences!

[need_it]

Originally Posted by mrfool

😮‍💨 Need time.

Can imagine the struggle you have. Just curious also - I guess giving up the marriage for this ML is out of question? I probably gonna get shelling from people for this question but it is not an impossible option. Your ML flame had no expectation that you divorce and start something proper with her?

[mrfool]

Originally Posted by need_it

Can imagine the struggle you have. Just curious also - I guess giving up the marriage for this ML is out of question? I probably gonna get shelling from people for this question but it is not an impossible option. Your ML flame had no expectation that you divorce and start something proper with her?

Actually, she had gone through the same experience like my wife now. No, she never wants me to divorce cause if I do so I am just another asshole. She is ok to take half of me.

Probably I am an ashole.

[need_it]

Originally Posted by mrfool

Actually, she had gone through the same experience like my wife now. No, she never wants me to divorce cause if I do so I am just another asshole. She is ok to take half of me.

Probably I am an ashole.

Never easy when it comes to emotions. Hang in there! And hope things will work out eventually.

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by Samtotato

Understandable bro.now i get the picture.. thks for explanation.
That aside... admire your raw with ML experiences!

Raw is one thing, but I have deprives to fix other than just sex. That's why I pick MLs that can become FWB or have some kind of relationship. I don't need a lot of them, just 1 or 2 will do. After fucking so many girls, I don't really care about variety anymore. I can always go fuck a SYT once in a while on a trip. Just need a constant fix while I'm here.

Tbh, even MLs can't satisfy me for long term, need to keep replacing as they leave. I ever kept a FW PRC girl for long term, it felt better, but these are even more difficult to hunt for.

[mrfool]

Originally Posted by need_it

Never easy when it comes to emotions. Hang in there! And hope things will work out eventually.

Thanks bro. Will go silent for a while.

[vyvyv]

This Thread touches my heart... I had this vietnamese syt ml who I loved alot but recently made the decision to break all ties with her. Hope my story can help brothers who is confused and making their decision.

It all started at the massage parlour where we fondle until super horny and I rawed her. Continued to raw at her place and mp. Her GFE is damned good (seductive talks and cuddling etc.) Based on reviews here and what she swore to me, she do hj to other customers and let them roam upper body only. She only told me her secret that she has a baby at vietnam and her red days. Our relationship goes as far as discussing her changing her job to do pedicure (which she has certifications) and me buying a house to live together.

Everything was good until I slowly realised that the situation:
1. [Real love?] I need to blindly trust her words. But if they are honest people then why come work as ml providing sexual services? A leapord cannot change their spots.
2. [Money?] She talks about love, but after my every visit she happily takes my money. The last time i said I very poor so cannot see her so often already (to test her reaction). I was expecting maybe she can tell me no need pay her this time (so can see me more), but instead she told her sob story about needing to give money back Vietnam for CNY etc... and saying giving her money is not for service but because I want to take care of her.. ended up I giving her more than usual that time... haha
3. [Only me?] She looks at my phone and asked me "who is this", deletes another ml wechat etc.. but when i asked to look at her phone, she refused. She also refused to add me on her Facebook. Based on some interaction with her "Friends", limited information, can tell she is flirting with them. (giving heart emoji to a singapore guy's photo, kissing emoji replies, what she said during live chat etc..). The same kind of GFE things she did to me?
4. [Ending?] What is the ending we have? I am not a rich guy to take care of her vietnam family, her debts and her dream of buying big house at her hometown. I am also not prepared to marry her.
5. [Interest] She is not interested in my real life. Never asked anything related to my life. Not even my real name.

My conclusion is the ml is just using me to satisfy her greed and emotional needs (lonliness working). There is no ending for us. My "love" was based on what I imagine her to be and from the pleasure of raw sex. This is not true love. And I was the only one serious about this relationship. She will definitely RTV someday.

To brothers who is in similar situation and is confuse, have the determination to think it through and try to find the truth. Please don't escape by "leaving to fate" and "paying karma debt". I am a relieved man now. The withdrawal effects lasted only 2-3 weeks.

I am back looking forward to the future with hope again.

[Shadow_warrior]

Originally Posted by vyvyv

This Thread touches my heart... I had this vietnamese syt ml who I loved alot but recently made the decision to break all ties with her. Hope my story can help brothers who is confused and making their decision.

It all started at the massage parlour where we fondle until super horny and I rawed her. Continued to raw at her place and mp. Her GFE is damned good (seductive talks and cuddling etc.) Based on reviews here and what she swore to me, she do hj to other customers and let them roam upper body only. She only told me her secret that she has a baby at vietnam and her red days. Our relationship goes as far as discussing her changing her job to do pedicure (which she has certifications) and me buying a house to live together.

Everything was good until I slowly realised that the situation:
1. [Real love?] I need to blindly trust her words. But if they are honest people then why come work as ml providing sexual services? A leapord cannot change their spots.
2. [Money?] She talks about love, but after my every visit she happily takes my money. The last time i said I very poor so cannot see her so often already (to test her reaction). I was expecting maybe she can tell me no need pay her this time (so can see me more), but instead she told her sob story about needing to give money back Vietnam for CNY etc... and saying giving her money is not for service but because I want to take care of her.. ended up I giving her more than usual that time... haha
3. [Only me?] She looks at my phone and asked me "who is this", deletes another ml wechat etc.. but when i asked to look at her phone, she refused. She also refused to add me on her Facebook. Based on some interaction with her "Friends", limited information, can tell she is flirting with them. (giving heart emoji to a singapore guy's photo, kissing emoji replies, what she said during live chat etc..). The same kind of GFE things she did to me?
4. [Ending?] What is the ending we have? I am not a rich guy to take care of her vietnam family, her debts and her dream of buying big house at her hometown. I am also not prepared to marry her.
5. [Interest] She is not interested in my real life. Never asked anything related to my life. Not even my real name.

My conclusion is the ml is just using me to satisfy her greed and emotional needs (lonliness working). There is no ending for us. My "love" was based on what I imagine her to be and from the pleasure of raw sex. This is not true love. And I was the only one serious about this relationship. She will definitely RTV someday.

To brothers who is in similar situation and is confuse, have the determination to think it through and try to find the truth. Please don't escape by "leaving to fate" and "paying karma debt". I am a relieved man now. The withdrawal effects lasted only 2-3 weeks.

I am back looking forward to the future with hope again.

Bro, many senior bros would have this plight.

And we can tell those not experienced not to do so.

But the heart will do what the heart will do. For better or worse.

And the conclusions are basically the same, once we are burnt, we realise why those who walked into this battle, said don't do it.

I don't believe anyone can control themselves, once they fall into KC. Its not something you look for, and perhaps you can fend off the demons a couple of times, but once the right ones hits the right notes, all the tough talk, reasonable man behavior falls like a deck of cards.

Glad you came out from a short stint, some are in it for years, and have deep scars from this.

[WOOHOO]

Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior

Bro, many senior bros would have this plight.

And we can tell those not experienced not to do so.

But the heart will do what the heart will do. For better or worse.

And the conclusions are basically the same, once we are burnt, we realise why those who walked into this battle, said don't do it.

I don't believe anyone can control themselves, once they fall into KC. Its not something you look for, and perhaps you can fend off the demons a couple of times, but once the right ones hits the right notes, all the tough talk, reasonable man behavior falls like a deck of cards.

Glad you came out from a short stint, some are in it for years, and have deep scars from this.

WOO UPZ 👍 👍 👍

[junior_cannibal]

Falling into a kc trap has nothing to do with senior or junior newbie chiongster, it's a matter of if one knows what one really wants.
Go to MP to get a paid release and not there to think of finding true love or free sex/ FB.
To be fair, these ML could have worked back home as a factory worker, admin clerk or something lowly paid, when they choose to be a ML, it's either they need to make money fast and more, or they have a big debt back home, maybe a family member is dying and need a big surgery ASAP.
Hence, who will be here to talk love? Also, in doubt, find a mirror, look into it, unless you are young and handsome, otherwise, why would the ML fall in love with you? They are easily more than a decade younger, or worst, we could be older than their fathers.
Last but not least, if so head over heels to divorce the wives or gf to want to be with the ML. Honestly, even if the ML is serious, wait till you visit their parents and families back home, the cultural differences will be tough to manage.
As the old saying, if you want to drink milk, need not bring the cow home.

[Samtotato]

Originally Posted by lonelyfish

Raw is one thing, but I have deprives to fix other than just sex. That's why I pick MLs that can become FWB or have some kind of relationship. I don't need a lot of them, just 1 or 2 will do. After fucking so many girls, I don't really care about variety anymore. I can always go fuck a SYT once in a while on a trip. Just need a constant fix while I'm here.

Tbh, even MLs can't satisfy me for long term, need to keep replacing as they leave. I ever kept a FW PRC girl for long term, it felt better, but these are even more difficult to hunt for.

Sigh totally understand.. but its so hard to find a ml who may or may not be having fun with others at the same time..
Not easy to find/replace these mls, there's so much chemistry/involvement needed.. feels like an investment to me.. whether worth or not, nobody knows... mls here, esp younger ones, $$ is their goal.. ohwell

[Samtotato]

Originally Posted by vyvyv

This Thread touches my heart... I had this vietnamese syt ml who I loved alot but recently made the decision to break all ties with her. Hope my story can help brothers who is confused and making their decision.

It all started at the massage parlour where we fondle until super horny and I rawed her. Continued to raw at her place and mp. Her GFE is damned good (seductive talks and cuddling etc.) Based on reviews here and what she swore to me, she do hj to other customers and let them roam upper body only. She only told me her secret that she has a baby at vietnam and her red days. Our relationship goes as far as discussing her changing her job to do pedicure (which she has certifications) and me buying a house to live together.

Everything was good until I slowly realised that the situation:
1. [Real love?] I need to blindly trust her words. But if they are honest people then why come work as ml providing sexual services? A leapord cannot change their spots.
2. [Money?] She talks about love, but after my every visit she happily takes my money. The last time i said I very poor so cannot see her so often already (to test her reaction). I was expecting maybe she can tell me no need pay her this time (so can see me more), but instead she told her sob story about needing to give money back Vietnam for CNY etc... and saying giving her money is not for service but because I want to take care of her.. ended up I giving her more than usual that time... haha
3. [Only me?] She looks at my phone and asked me "who is this", deletes another ml wechat etc.. but when i asked to look at her phone, she refused. She also refused to add me on her Facebook. Based on some interaction with her "Friends", limited information, can tell she is flirting with them. (giving heart emoji to a singapore guy's photo, kissing emoji replies, what she said during live chat etc..). The same kind of GFE things she did to me?
4. [Ending?] What is the ending we have? I am not a rich guy to take care of her vietnam family, her debts and her dream of buying big house at her hometown. I am also not prepared to marry her.
5. [Interest] She is not interested in my real life. Never asked anything related to my life. Not even my real name.

My conclusion is the ml is just using me to satisfy her greed and emotional needs (lonliness working). There is no ending for us. My "love" was based on what I imagine her to be and from the pleasure of raw sex. This is not true love. And I was the only one serious about this relationship. She will definitely RTV someday.

To brothers who is in similar situation and is confuse, have the determination to think it through and try to find the truth. Please don't escape by "leaving to fate" and "paying karma debt". I am a relieved man now. The withdrawal effects lasted only 2-3 weeks.

I am back looking forward to the future with hope again.

I kinda in this situation as well.. chinese ml. Quite syt.. well.. kinda bao-ing her.. i do pay her hourly as well when i visit her during "her work hours".
SHe allows me to see her hp, and interaction with other customers.. but it just doesnt feel good at all.. dont even know if I should continue this with her.. kind of tiring..
And yea.. who knows she could be having another dude ramming her although she mentioned she only provide hj, SN to others blabla..
Having trust issues..

[Shadow_warrior]

Originally Posted by junior_cannibal

Falling into a kc trap has nothing to do with senior or junior newbie chiongster, it's a matter of if one knows what one really wants.
Go to MP to get a paid release and not there to think of finding true love or free sex/ FB.
To be fair, these ML could have worked back home as a factory worker, admin clerk or something lowly paid, when they choose to be a ML, it's either they need to make money fast and more, or they have a big debt back home, maybe a family member is dying and need a big surgery ASAP.
Hence, who will be here to talk love? Also, in doubt, find a mirror, look into it, unless you are young and handsome, otherwise, why would the ML fall in love with you? They are easily more than a decade younger, or worst, we could be older than their fathers.
Last but not least, if so head over heels to divorce the wives or gf to want to be with the ML. Honestly, even if the ML is serious, wait till you visit their parents and families back home, the cultural differences will be tough to manage.
As the old saying, if you want to drink milk, need not bring the cow home.

disagree, and you are free to do so as well

Why I say senior bros, is because because of experience.

At a early stage, perhaps the bro is young, single, KC, nothing to lose beyond his own sanity

At a later stage, bro is married, kids, he has more to lose, divorce, house, financial assets

At a much later stage, bro is old, he has things to lose. Time, health, and perhaps his family that has been with him for many years, kids might think differently of him

From a older man experience, I know this is true. Yours might be logic and as I stated, anyone can quote logical statements, as I once did as well, I am talking about reality, when one has fallen for the girl, and its not something that you think you can control

Have you meet someone who can control falling in love with anyone? Man or woman who use logic to think through their emotions when it comes to love or affection? I doubt that.

I don't bother with what the girl has in her country, or even the local FL that I have had flings with. At best this data is for me to understand why I am being treated as such, being used, and make sense of the suffering and pain of being involved with her, and understand the context. But the most important is the bro's feelings and status, that is involved and what he has to lose or stand to gain.

If you say you have chiong for a long time, never been kc, or been kc and didn't lose out, or been kc and only had a little bit of a effect, maybe you just haven't met the one that will do it for you. Might not be your sense of logic and control that helped you through. For some other bros, as many here will say, they met that one, and then their world changed.
It is very simple, a girl who gives you gfe, that you can't find else where and you get to sleep with her, wanting more. You are KCed. Same as a bf gf that just started. Not that complicated. Emotions are emotions.

Our Ministers, High ranking civil servants have all fallen to the KC. Sure we might say, these are WL, and those are "decent women"? Really? There was a case where this patient sued the doctor who she had an affair with, she was married. She left her husband. Now she's bitter. Another lady, sales person was selling her service to the Govt Agency, and somehow sold also her sex services. He was charged. Another was a law professor and a student.
End of the day, what I am saying is emotions are emotions.
As the bro says, the girl's background is colourful and we start to ask if we are doing the right thing to be with this kind of girl, but the feelings of wanting to be with the person, is the same, its the good feeling that we all want to have.

No one in the right mind, or wrong mind goes to FL, ML looking for love. Not many married get married to have an affair. These things happen when it happens, and its often never something that was pre meditated.

I am not going to tell people that they are right or wrong. Different strokes different folks different lives different experiences and hence different choices. That's the point of debate and arguments, putting salient points across respectfully without having to dismiss someone else's experience. I find that more useful

[Shadow_warrior]

Originally Posted by WOOHOO

WOO UPZ 👍 👍 👍

sure will bro, upped you before. will do so once I can reup you again.

I owe you 72 points now