Team Hoian/hayhay/sidtip vs Team Kittenz/Bote (TomMAffolter)

[hoian]

Talk is cheap. Show us the proof.

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

...i think thats more than enough proof. YOu repeating the same LIE doesnt make it a truth...There is documentary proof you pm lausung begging for contacts...

[Wendella]

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

Id love to have a read of these studies you mentioned

Enjoy

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...hs-and-sadists

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...91886914000324

The rest of your post is imagination based and the typical hyperbolic hypercritical sort of thing you create -- the article recommends I ignore such stuff, so I will.

[hoian]

1. Nice fictional story u have cooked up. Show proof that I begged someone for whore contacts. Begging goes something like this..."Pls I beg u...can you pls give me the contact of your whore?"... Just because u are a beggar does not make me one, too.

2. Show proof that I have clones.

3. Show proof that I am a stealth agent.

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

Show us...YOU MEAN YOU AND YOUR CLONES RIGHT BECAUSE IM SURE THE VAST MAJORITY ...

[hoian]

Bingo! U have actually dug up proof that TomMcForker / Mutantchick / Adam Huynh is a troll and psychopath.

Let all the ppl in this Forum be warned.... including idiots who might actually wanna consider engaging his services.

Originally Posted by Wendella

Enjoy

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...hs-and-sadists

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...91886914000324

[Wendella]

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

Sadism, ok this im guilty as charged as i do get a perverse pleasure in exposing idiots and losers for who they are, they have spent so many years in denial, its fun to shatter a few mirrors.

First, it's interesting you applied this to yourself. I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the clones. I believed you when you said they aren't you, and I don't think they are you.

But here you are evaluating yourself, as if it was about you.

I think it's a lot simpler than all the supposed reasons you're listing. You just like it. You enjoy abusing people. Out here in the real world I don't know anyone who is like that. I think even in SBF guys like you aren't too common.

But for me at least it's really tiresome. I'd like it if we could talk like adults here rather than the constant personal putdowns all the time.

You probably shouldn't have written all that in the forum. You're being too self-revealing. Not sure if you realize how that comes across to people whose personality is different than yours. And there's people here who have it in for you, which I'm sure you've noticed.

[hoian]

So many useless words and not a single shred of evidence... I am starting to feel bored... *yawns*

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

"Dark Tetrad" of personality traits...

[lausung]

Reading this thread bring back some memory.
I don't bother posting the facts.

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

there is a screen shot of YOU begging lausung to share contacts of coworkers of the parkson freelancer that lausung upp...the whole premise of your request doenst even make sense if you had any real understanding of women.

Mr Wendella, if anything i really learn here, trust is a dirty word.
You circulate info I gave u and cause it to be post in forum openly. That is breaching our agreement but I know everyone is all for ownself, whoever give u benefit, you become their good friend. Disgusting but this is the real world.

Originally Posted by Wendella

Enjoy
The rest of your post is imagination based and the typical hyperbolic hypercritical sort of thing you create -- the article recommends I ignore such stuff, so I will.

Mr Hoian, you have so much time in cyberworld. Just curious how did you allocate time for your model gf and business?

Anyway wish you good luck with your vietnam business and story.
I did have a good laugh with my friends when i tell them about u and your $20 five star hotel.

Originally Posted by hoian

1. Nice fictional story u have cooked up. Show proof that I begged someone for whore contacts. Begging goes something like this..."Pls I beg u...can you pls give me the contact of your whore?"... Just because u are a beggar does not make me one, too.

Ciao
All the Best

[CAPTAINXXXSOLO]

You are just a dumb pimp, trying to make a living off prostitutes.

Perhaps you can survive by licking their butts and their asses after their sessions...

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

you are the clone, the things you are posting are often DIRECT quotes of other peoples posts, even the list of girls you are disseminating is a list stolen from someone else. and the list btw half the girls listed have already quit

[hoian]

Talk about pot calling the kettle black, aren't u guilty of the same thing? U go around begging me & everyone else for info. Lied to everyone that you are not going to use pimp services. Then posted whatever info I gave u... fortunately it was just an insignificant hotel info which I don't even go back to these days.

Even posted my mobile no. in public... fortunately I was smarter than u... it was only a disposable no. and your pimp was not able to incriminate me with that no. LOL~

Originally Posted by lausung

Mr Wendella, if anything i really learn here, trust is a dirty word. You circulate info I gave u and cause it to be post in forum openly. That is breaching our agreement but I know everyone is all for ownself, whoever give u benefit, you become their good friend. Disgusting but this is the real world.

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Btw I still have the PM where u messaged me desperately to beg for a cheap gal-friendly hotel. If u were so "rich & successful" as your pimp made u out to be... why would u even bother to PM me for a $20 hotel contact? I guess the last laugh's on you.

Let's face it. You are a LOSER. The only "friend" you have is Tom / MC and that friendship is worth US$100.

Anyway I am sorry things did not work out for you in VN. I would be disgusted, too, and never return to VN again if I had a pimp that only knows where to find cheap ugly whores.

Wish u better luck in India or whichever destination next you are planning your whoring trips.

Originally Posted by lausung

Anyway wish you good luck with your vietnam business and story. I did have a good laugh with my friends when i tell them about u and your $20 five star hotel.

[hoian]

A very simple question to debunk your theory:
Have I ever PMed u to ask for contacts since the beginning?

Let's face it. There are only 2 beggars here.

1) lausung who begged for info from everyone here; and for u to lead him around like a blind bat.

2) You, who begged for US$100 from him and other unsuspecting blind bats.

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

im much more liberal abt definition of begging, no need to use the word beg in your request...a begger is someone who has NOTHING, no leverage, nothing to barter with, and is asking for something from someone with much more status...have u heard of any beggars in vn or in any country use the word beg when they asking for money?...they just stick out their hand with same sad fuck face, which is the impression i got looking at your pm to lausing

[FireShark]

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

This is the exact example of why i call you a pathetic chicken shit man...you only act big when you THINK i dont know you...you think you wont be betrayed by who you think are your friends, its Patick Ang own big mouth that i know things abt his "friends", he is the one that betray their confidence...if you have ever met h88 then you can be sure i know u....and if i have scammed so many people surely there will be reports against me...

Since you had admitted that you are that faggot Mutant Chicken aka TomMAffolter; I do hope that all samsters will be careful when dealing with someone like you.

[Wendella]

Originally Posted by lausung

Mr Wendella, if anything i really learn here, trust is a dirty word.
You circulate info I gave u and cause it to be post in forum openly. That is breaching our agreement but I know everyone is all for ownself, whoever give u benefit, you become their good friend. Disgusting but this is the real world.

Ciao
All the Best

Your sentiment and tone seem to have drastically changed from our PM correspondence, so I can only guess that you've been absorbing and believing too much propaganda. I'm about equally friendly to almost anyone I talk to in PM regardless what's being discussed. Everyone who I talk to Im sure would back me on that. And I had thought that would include you too. This tone I see here is all new. We talked about that incident at the time. I came to you and apologized, right? Your response to me then was that it was no big deal, don't worry. I had told one person, and that just to verify that a place he had posted about was same one that I knew. I never expected he would go post the address on the forum. I think you know all this. It's disappointing to see you suddenly switch to such a harsh view, I think we have had some good honest PM discussions and it's a pity it goes this way now. I really don't think Tom needs your support against me. And I think it's plain to anyone who reads here what he is like. Anyway, you just made one critical post about me, and by far the rest of talk between us has been very different, so I will try not to take this one too seriously.

[Wendella]

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

Lets get to specifics the artricle was abt TROLLS not clones...you merely extended it to a totally different matter, and whilst you may not have intended the slurr towards me, im sure hoian thought it was,

I skip over any dialog between you and Hoian, so I did not see his post.

Trolling and clones are completely different things? I would say that a 'clone' is a tool (amonst others) used by trolls. The one who creates the clones here is a troll.

You have an obsession with criticizing people. It's gotten very old now. It's not ok with you if people here just discuss the hobby. It has to be turned into this personal attack stuff always. For you, that's fun. It's the opposite of fun for most people.

When I said it doesn't bode well, what I meant is that people of that personality type do not change. It's just how they are, and will always be. So it means for anyone who doesn't enjoy being subjected to that, there's only one option which is to avoid someone who is like this.

[hoian]

If u ask me, pimps like TomMcFarker encourages minions like lausung to be sly and conniving -- thus creating an environment whereby no seniors trust anyone or wanna share anything anymore. And that means good business for Tom. A clever strategy if I may say so.

[Wendella]

I'm done with this thread.