Advice on marrying a foreign bride and the Women's Charter

[grecko1]

Filipina woman are untrustable.

[Blast88]

Originally Posted by cumblaster

Hi Guys

For nearly 2 years, I've been dating a single mom from the Philippines. Met her when she came here as a 'Performing Artist'. We eventually became serious enough that she moved in with me for the last 4 months until her permit expired and she had to go back.

10 months ago, she came back as a tourist, stayed with me, sent out her CV's and eventually got a regular job as a waitress in one of the restaurants here. However, she again had to go back once her permit expired.

Now, after 8 months of living together, coupled with the time we were apart (but still communicated daily) as well as the time she was staying with me previously, I honestly think she loves me, and I her.

And while we both would have been perfectly content to just cohabitate together, that's not possible as she cannot stay here indefinitely. Hence, I will eventually have to marry her...

My problem is the Women's charter.
I have my own place, savings, etc. Looking at the failure rates of marriages, (50%?). Getting married is literally like going to the roulette table and betting 1/2 my entire life savings on black!!

So if we should ever go through a divorce:
1) If she just holds a LTVP/ LTVP - Plus pass.
a) Can she whack me with the Women's charter for her maintenance?
b) Can she get me for maintenance of the kid that is hers but not mine?
c) Can she get 1/2 my flat and savings?

2) If she holds a PR will I be screwed? As I believe points a, b and c can all be used to crucify me..

Any advice how I should go about covering my ass?


Thank you for reading..

TS, before getting marry u already think of getting divorce so my advice is better give up your idea of getting marry & just stay put on BGR. In my view, basically marriage is all about mutual trust between you & your spouse, how to manage your marriage life if you are not ready to fulfill this 2 basic conditions, better step away from marriage.

[maxsee]

In the very first place, the law governing marriage in Singapore is not even fair for both sex...so to all men out there...dun ever step into marriage unless u r prepared to pay the price if things dun works out.....

[Greatking]

Bro,

Jus sharing some pointers. A woman who is married to a Singapore citizen will need to stay in Singapore for more than 6months in order to be covered under this chapter.

Hope it helps.

Cheers.

[Rainut]

Bro why don't you marry her in Philippines and then apply LTVP+ for her? Marriage overseas cert is recognised and you can apply to be sponsor.

But anyone can advise if so does the wife get covered under woman charter? Since marriage and ROM not in SGP?

[Goldenking]

Originally Posted by Greatking

Bro,

Jus sharing some pointers. A woman who is married to a Singapore citizen will need to stay in Singapore for more than 6months in order to be covered under this chapter.

Hope it helps.

Cheers.

Sorry bro, trying to look into women chapter to support this. Pls ignore the msg till further finding. Thanks! and Merry X'mas!

[jbcheong123]

Originally Posted by Rainut

Bro why don't you marry her in Philippines and then apply LTVP+ for her? Marriage overseas cert is recognised and you can apply to be sponsor.

But anyone can advise if so does the wife get covered under woman charter? Since marriage and ROM not in SGP?

any bro can kindly share on this??

[cumblaster]

thanks guys for all the responses. The thing is, I stopped believing in the idealism of marriage a long time ago. Had there been no obstacles preventing her to stay with me here, this post would never have existed.

But I do find it interesting that when it comes to foreign brides, we get conflicting information. It was in the papers the other day that a Vietnamese wife was thrown out of her husbands house here and denied access by him and his family from seeing her singapore born child. She resorted to renting a place near the home, hoping to see the kid. The legal advice she got was there was very little she could do. A very sad picture was painted about her in the papers.

Then we have the women right groups here lobbying for more protection to foreign brides. One of our ministers responded saying they are partially protected by the charter and gave an example of spousal abuse. I'd like to know just what else they are protected from.

What if the guy refuses to divorce her and just kick her out. Can she force a divorce so she can get half his assets? Having limited funds, will the women's charter allow her to have a lawyer to fight for her for a dollar? Just trying to think out of the box here...

[cumblaster]

Originally Posted by Rainut

Bro why don't you marry her in Philippines and then apply LTVP+ for her? Marriage overseas cert is recognised and you can apply to be sponsor.

Won't I need to register the marriage in SG before I can apply the LTVP for her? Is'n that the same as having an ROM here?

[hAvAnAs]

chanced upon this thread. interesting.

i myself am marrying a pinay soon. however, she is from the middle-upper class, holds a degree, mum has own business, etc etc.. so i think i can consider myself lucky.. in fact she is planning to work in sg, and i believe she will probably earn more than me.. then i can stay home be penguin daddy and surf SBF hahaha..

my concern now is the immigration... need some advice from any bros who have been thru this.

1) she is waiting for her future employer to reply and offer her a job which i believe will roughly be around like 2 months before our wedding which is soon. should we:
a) marry then apply for her LTVP whch can also eligible for her to work right?
b) let her employer apply for her pass which i believe is duno what e-pass P1 or P2, the lower salary category one..

any implications if i choose either a or b?