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Re: Liverpool Fc Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

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rafa used to like to play this formation especially in his first season. this is the formation he used at valencia. But its not a very good tactic in English game, midfielders are very physical n fast in the middle of the park and if two midfielders drift to the side, its very easy to break down th middle. If you check , he hasnt play that formation for a long time.

I feel that both are different players. Benayoun is more like King Luis, he likes to bring the ball in and go direct n his crossing is not as good as Pennant. Pennant is more of a winger compared to Benayoun, he prefers to tear down the flank n make his way into the box or cross the ball.

The left Flank is similar as well, Riise likes to bring the ball down the flank apart when he wants to shoot outside the box. Babel prefers to cut in and play direct instead of down the flank.

With our new players, we got some much option in the style we can play.
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A nice piece of singing praises ... though I dun agree with everything that's written here.

SINGING THE PRAISES OF THE UNSUNG
Paul Tomkins 29 August 2007

We know the identities of those players who win the most plaudits. And almost always it's deservedly so. Such reputations are earned.

Fernando Torres is the latest player heading for that category. But not every player gets his due recognition.

Of course, some players get called an unsung hero so many times they can no longer be considered unappreciated. Steve Finnan is one such player. No sane Liverpool fan underrates him now, although he doesn't always receive his due recognition from outside the club.

Jamie Carragher is perhaps the epitome of unsung-becomes-much-vaunted. So no player is consigned to the category for life.

Part of the problem in appreciating a player is that many people seem to get obsessed with what he can't do, rather than what he can.

Maybe even Torres will suffer this. You know the kind of thing: he doesn't score goals as frequently as so-and-so.

At present, Torres has played three league games: two fairly tricky away fixtures and one very tricky home one. His goal ratio is currently one in three. But he has played a massive part in the winning of both away games, and his goal was likely to prove the winner against Chelsea until the referee intervened.

He was also heavily involved in goals at Villa Park and the Stadium of Light, and but for inspired keeping, might have five or six strikes to his name now.

I'm a big proponent of stats, when used sensibly. But there is something statistically immeasurable about what Fernando Torres does to a defence during 90 minutes. He may miss chances, but the team will score lots of goals because of his superb all-round play. He creates openings for others in so many different ways, both directly and indirectly.

For a flair player he works phenomenally hard. So not only does he give centre-backs no time to rest when they're on the ball, he also runs them ragged when it's at his feet or when he's running off the ball. After 60 minutes those centre-backs must be close to nervous breakdowns.

It might not win him as many headlines, so it is the unsung part of his game: the wearing down of the opposition.

But how do you measure the stress and strain a defence feels with statistics? You can't. You need heart-rate monitors and cortisol tests. You need to check for new grey hairs after the final whistle, and look for hardened man-markers curled up in the corner of the changing room, crying for their mummies.

If you force a mistake from a defender, embarrass him with a piece of skill or blitz him with a burst of pace, even if you don't score you've affected his confidence. Do it continually, and he'll unravel. The moment against Sunderland when Torres burst between the Nosworthy and McShane will have given them nightmares. It was frighteningly direct.

So when Torres received the ball from Babel in the 87th minute, they will have had no idea what he was going to do with it; particularly if they'd also watched what Torres did to Ben-Haim a week earlier. While Torres had the vision and ability to calmly stroke a perfectly-weighted pass into Voronin's path for the second goal, by then it was against tired and tormented defenders who dare not get too close to the Spaniard for fear of further embarrassment.

Another problem is comparing players with those they shouldn't be expected to match up to. It depends where you set the benchmark. While it should be high for any Liverpool player, you have to look at what they do for the team, not just their eye-catching individual moments.

If you compare Dirk Kuyt with Marco van Basten, then like most mere mortals the Liverpool man will suffer. Of course, that doesn't mean you should go to the other end of the spectrum and compare him with Marco Boogers. But Dirk Kuyt offers his own unique qualities that should be appreciated. He's a 'modern' footballer, and while some people will use that as a criticism, I see it only as a plaudit.

Last year he didn't score in the Champions League until the very last minute of the final, but his selfless performances, particularly against Barcelona and Chelsea, were crucial in progressing. He helped win those games.

His role in Torres' goal against Chelsea sums up why I admire him so much. The ball was in the air in the centre circle in Liverpool's half, and Kuyt ran back and jumped with more conviction against the much taller Obi Mikel, and won the ball for the Reds. Had he not, Liverpool would have been under the cosh.

But from there Alonso headed to Gerrard, and suddenly a lightning break was underway.

But apart from Kuyt's involvement there, I loved the way he burst forward to support his strike partner. A lot of other hardworking strikers would have seen their involvement in the move as over –– watching with admiration as the ball disappeared upfield –– but not Kuyt, and that's why I think he has the right instincts.

Not only had Torres got a 30-yard head-start on Kuyt when Gerrard's pass was released, but Kuyt doesn't have the Spaniard's pace. However, at the exact moment Torres struck the ball towards goal, with four Chelsea players chasing back, Kuyt arrived unmarked into the 'D' of the penalty area. Had Torres decided the angle was against him he could have rolled the ball to the penalty spot for the oncoming Dutchman to strike home. Similarly, if Cech had parried the shot, Kuyt stood a good chance of nabbing the rebound.

Two years ago Peter Crouch was something of an unsung hero. Then he found his goalscoring touch, and now people are wondering why he isn't playing. But for the first time, it seems, Benítez has four strikers he is very happy with. That said, he can't play them all, obviously.

But I'd be surprised if Crouch doesn't have a significant role to play this season. With Torres able to hold the ball up away from home, as well as burst in behind defences, it's perhaps now at Anfield where Crouch will be deployed most. If teams come to sit back, then Crouch's aerial presence will trouble them around the area. Pair him with Torres, and that's two tall strikers to feed on crosses from another unsung hero who's winning over the fans in droves: Jermaine Pennant.

Given that his arrival was low-key, and he was not a household name, Andriy Voronin seemed destined, in the eyes of a lot of fans, to fill the position of underrated squad member. But if he carries on with his quick and clever movement, deft touches, powerful shooting and hard work, he certainly won't be an unsung hero. I expected him to be a handy free transfer, but he's been far better than anticipated.

Not as overtly tricky as Luis Garcia, he appears to have his goalscoring knack, while being more consistent with his passing.

Alvaro Arbeloa is another who doesn't win many headlines, but who continues to impress. I said when he first joined that he reminded me of Rob Jones, in both his physicality and his ability to look as comfortable at left-back as on the right. He's quick, and a tenacious tackler, but he also has a lot of skill.

Momo Sissoko, hero at the weekend, is a player who sometimes splits fan opinion. To my mind he has an under-appreciated ability on the ball, and the pace and quick feet to go past people –– meaning he has the potential to become a real attacking force. His main strength is breaking up play, but when he does so he often looks to get the ball quickly upfield with a forceful run.

But until this weekend, his finishing clearly let him down. The other major criticism relates to his passing, but I've always felt a lot of it is down to him being too 'excited' from chasing and closing people down. He's 100mph without possession, and sometimes is the same with it. Again, that can be great when he's bursting forward, but at times he needs to pause for a second and take stock.

But the ability to pass is there, even if he's never going to be a ball-playing maestro like Alonso. At 22, he has so much time to mature and develop. While players can continue to improve their technique as they grow older, providing they work at their game, a bigger change can come with improvements to their decision making and composure. That comes almost naturally, with age and experience.

But Sissoko is up against some really talented players for a starting berth in the centre of midfield.

Anyone not featuring much now will get their share of chances before May. Benítez hasn't thrown in too many of the new boys for the league games, to ensure some stability and familiarity to the start. But Rafa will rest and rotate when he sees the need, and with three players breaking bones within the space of six days, injuries will present opportunities.

I wouldn't like to be the person who had to decide which players weren't even going to make the 16 on match-day, as each seems good enough. And while it will be tricky for Benítez too, it's the only way a manager would want it. It's ten times better than struggling to find those good enough to include.

I sense Benítez now has well over 20 players whom he rates and trusts. Kewell, Benayoun, Crouch, Lucas, Mascherano –– these are players in whom the manager has either shown great faith over the years, or tracked the progress of during that time. They're clearly important players to Benítez.

But it's now got to the stage that he has no obvious passengers in the squad. And that can only bode well.
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Re: Liverpool Fc Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

Bros,

I have some video clips of the Liverpool - Toulouse Game which i took.


1)The huge flag that is always passing around the kop before match:

http://www.mediafire.com/?3sdm8n7nwjz

2)Singing of YNWA

http://www.mediafire.com/?5roz3jdcmm9

3)The 1min of applause for Rhys Jones

http://www.mediafire.com/?epgxnythdn2

4)Sami Hyypia's Goal but got block by one of the stadium pillar.

http://www.mediafire.com/?2wgkeqw21j0

5)YNWA at the end of the game and Kuyt's second goal (not very clear, sorry)

http://www.mediafire.com/?4jbfttw81qk


Hope you guys enjoy it! Just wanna share anfield atmosphere as a spectator.

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Bros,
I have some video clips of the Liverpool - Toulouse Game which i took.
http://www.mediafire.com/?3sdm8n7nwjz
http://www.mediafire.com/?5roz3jdcmm9
http://www.mediafire.com/?epgxnythdn2
http://www.mediafire.com/?2wgkeqw21j0
http://www.mediafire.com/?4jbfttw81qk
Hope you guys enjoy it! Just wanna share anfield atmosphere as a spectator.
Cheers
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yay! at last liverpool is playing up to their potential..
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Liverpool contact Juventus for defender Boumsong
tribalfooball.com - August 30, 2007

Juventus defender Jean Alain Boumsong is attracting interest from Liverpool.

Tuttosport says Liverpool have made a late move for the Frenchman, who has been made available by Juve this summer.

Reds boss Rafa Benitez needs to find cover after losing Jamie Carragher to a rib injury and selling Gabriel Paletta to Boca Juniors.
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Liverpool contact Juventus for defender Boumsong
tribalfooball.com - August 30, 2007
Don't worry Rafa has just rubbished it.
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Liverpool contact Juventus for defender Boumsong
tribalfooball.com - August 30, 2007

Juventus defender Jean Alain Boumsong is attracting interest from Liverpool.

Tuttosport says Liverpool have made a late move for the Frenchman, who has been made available by Juve this summer.

Reds boss Rafa Benitez needs to find cover after losing Jamie Carragher to a rib injury and selling Gabriel Paletta to Boca Juniors.
Tribal football news can read abit nia...
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CL draw is just over.

Liverpool is in Group A with FC Porto, Marseille and Besiktas
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The draw is done ...

Group A: Liverpool, Porto, Marseille, Besiktas
Group B: Chelsea, Valencia, Schalke, Rosenborg
Group C: Real Madrid, Werder Bremen, Lazio, Olympiakos
Group D: AC Milan, Benfica, Celtic, Shakhtar Donetsk

Group E: Barcelona, Lyon, Stuttgart, Rangers
Group F: Scums, Roma, Sporting Lisbon, Dynamo Kiev
Group G: Inter Milan, PSV Eindhoven, CSKA Moscow, Fenerbahce
Group H: Arsenal, Sevilla or AEK Athens, Steaua Bucharest, Slavia Prague


Personally, I think things could be worst:
under pot 2, getting Porto is still better than ending up with Valencia, Lyon, Roma or Sevilla
under pot 3, getting Marseille is still better than ending up with Lazio, Stuttgart ... or having to travel all the way to Moscow or Bucharest
under pot 4, the best draw could only be Rosenborg or Rangers

I have no qualms about LFC making it past the group stages ... I'm looking at how the three CL away games could affect performances of BPL games the following weekends.

In that sense, I think only Chelsea is void of the excessive travelling ... while Arsenal has it worst, especially if it's AEK Athens & not Sevilla making it past the qualifier.
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CL draw is just over.

Liverpool is in Group A with FC Porto, Marseille and Besiktas
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE...KNOCKOUT STAGE...
HERE WE COME!!!
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RAFA'S REACTION TO CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW
Paul Eaton 30 August 2007

Rafael Benitez has warned his Liverpool side face a tough task to qualify for the knock-out stages of the Champions League following today's draw in Monaco.

The Reds have been placed in Group A of the competition along with Porto, Marseille and Besiktas as they look to enjoy another successful European adventure this term.

"It's clear when you look at some of the other groups that ours could have been easier," said the Reds' boss.

"Porto have good experience in the Champions League and have enjoyed a good record over recent seasons. They will be tough opposition for us.

"Marseille are a good side in the French league and they will know a lot about us which could make it more difficult.

"And you always know when you go to Turkey that it will be hard because of the travelling involved and the wonderful support they give their teams over there.

"I am always confident we can qualify but as ever the key will be winning the home games and picking up results away."
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Re: Liverpool Fc Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

I think Rafa is trying to ease the pressure on the team. Not an easy group, but not that hard i think. Just my 2 cents.

On a separate note, nice to see the team playing well. Toulouse at 4-zip was great. Kuyt with 2 and Crouch with 1. Tough fight ahead for strikers to fill the game slots. Good for us.

Torres may not be scoring, but is terrorising defences. Hope Rafa finds a replacement CB soon.

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