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Old 16-07-2013, 12:48 PM
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Re: NEW ANGELES CITY (Pampanga, Balibago, Subic and anywhere else in PI)

Just wondering why human traffic issue is such a big thing in Phil and even Singapore but it doesn't seem to affect Thailand or Indonesia...
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Old 16-07-2013, 01:48 PM
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Re: NEW ANGELES CITY (Pampanga, Balibago, Subic and anywhere else in PI)

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Just wondering why human traffic issue is such a big thing in Phil and even Singapore but it doesn't seem to affect Thailand or Indonesia...
def affects indo..lots of lokassi have been shut down by police on claims of human trafficing...i was in bandar baru mear medan and that was what the hotel guys wwere telling me
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Re: NEW ANGELES CITY (Pampanga, Balibago, Subic and anywhere else in PI)

Religoin is one part of it I believe. Another part in Thailand is that they all know so very well how much money it can bring in!
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Old 16-07-2013, 02:35 PM
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As for Filipinos bullshit on their own kind, having worked with and employed Filipinos and Filipinas...... I would rank them as up there among the elites when it comes to bola bola.. They are so experts in telling lies and cooking up stories.
I certainly hope the situation in AC would settle down but until it does, I am giving that place a wide berth.
No doubt that pinoys are good at bola bola.

I just prefer to look at it that the majority are pretty harmless fun-loving people who love to laugh, joke, have fun and friendly.

Of course, some are just plain assholes, but that's true of every society, even our own.

Have fun, enjoy the PI, warts & all...
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Old 16-07-2013, 03:39 PM
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Re: NEW ANGELES CITY (Pampanga, Balibago, Subic and anywhere else in PI)

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Just my 2 cents worth of input. I spoken to my Filipino colleague who was from AC about what I read here. He made a call to his friend whose father is a policeman. He told me that the current raids and stuffs are just for "show". He will let me know how long it will last. So maybe our playground might not vanish. Not sure if it is true but this is what I can find out.
looks like my speculation arent too far fetched. the girls will need to eat, and they've got a whole chain of mouths to feed. and if the raids continue, they'd have hordes of angry people storming their politicians office demanding food, milk & diapers

and as i also believe, their authorities probably dont have enuf budget to make the cleansing a prolonged campaign.
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Old 16-07-2013, 03:55 PM
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Re: NEW ANGELES CITY (Pampanga, Balibago, Subic and anywhere else in PI)

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While I hope and I believe similarly many other bros do too that AC will return to normal one day..... I doubt that day will ever return again. Go read the press release by the Office of the Department of Justice on the steps the PI government is taking to improve on its Tier 2 rating by the US Commission on Human Trafficking.

The statements by the spokeswoman leaves no doubt in my mind that the PI Government is determined to see through the current crackdown to the satisfaction of the US Commission...... whilst they cannot totally eradicate the exploitation of their women..... they will do their utmost to see it reduced to a level not so obvious to outsiders.

It is not just about AC...... the entire PI archipelago is affected by the new laws and AC is just the starting point........ and I understand that similar raids have also been conducted in Cebu, Boracay, Subic, CDO.....

On the other hand..... the current Mayor (not me) of AC is attempting to squeeze whatever he can out from the bars before the demise of AC as we know it currently...... his Office has issued a guideline on the new fees structure payable by the bars to remain in business. Also included are hotel tariffs and trike fees increases and alcohol (40%) + BIR (18%) taxes.

From 1st January 2014, City Hall will only issue licenses for 40 bars to operate in an enclosed area to be demarcated by the Mayors' Office for easy monitoring and enforcement.

Good luck to all !
thanks for the heads up, their efforts seem to put them in better light with the human rights activists etc. but when i look at the larger picture, i remain optimistic about the situation. the more they squeeze, the more they go underground. it's not uncommon for the gals to offer their discreet services by fishing clientele via social networking sites, these days.

after all, the girls have to eat, and they've got mouths to feed. if there isn't any employment that can sustain them, the world's oldest trade is what they'd turn to eventually. and it's not as if the authorities have any sustainable plan to re-educate/reform the girls, that will guarantee them the bacon on the table.

the way i see it, life will be back to normal in due course.
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Old 16-07-2013, 04:11 PM
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Shit, if even half of what will be implimented comes true then AC is forever changed and f**ked.
Just 40 bars will remain in business and the 40 bars that somehow survive the cut then already KNOW FOR A FACT the prices will skyrocket as all the new taxes and rules along with ( of course more expensive payoffs to stay in business) will be past on to the customer. Less girls to choose from and more money for those that remain. The future of AC looks dim.
its a case of "glass ½ empty or ½ full".

concerning some of the issues in question, there's 2 sides to a coin:
1. age disparity of 10yrs - just check for age when when u're keen on the girl
2. barfine - the joints would be innovative enough to bypass that issue by now
3. human trafficking - 2 consenting adults (>21yo onwards) hold hands/ go on a date/ fk the brains out of each other behind closed doors... doesnt constitute trafficking, cos nobody's forced to do what they're not willing to.

anyway, its up to individuals how they wanna see the situation. i'm hopeful that the rukus will die down in due time.
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Re: NEW ANGELES CITY (Pampanga, Balibago, Subic and anywhere else in PI)

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Just wondering why human traffic issue is such a big thing in Phil and even Singapore but it doesn't seem to affect Thailand or Indonesia...
well bro, ppl dont know what they dont know. sometimes we're given to understand something that is quite remote from its actual implications.

definition of human trafficking: Human trafficking is the trade in humans, most commonly for the purpose of sexual slavery, forced labor or for the extraction of organs or tissues,[1][2] including surrogacy and ova removal.[3] Trafficking is a lucrative industry, representing an estimated $32 billion per year in international trade, compared to the estimated annual $650 billion for all illegal international trade circa 2010.[4]...

fact is, none of the girls r forced to do what they're doing. and since they have the freedom to say yes or no, the trafficking clause doesnt apply.
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thanks for the heads up, their efforts seem to put them in better light with the human rights activists etc. but when i look at the larger picture, i remain optimistic about the situation. the more they squeeze, the more they go underground. it's not uncommon for the gals to offer their discreet services by fishing clientele via social networking sites, these days.

after all, the girls have to eat, and they've got mouths to feed. if there isn't any employment that can sustain them, the world's oldest trade is what they'd turn to eventually. and it's not as if the authorities have any sustainable plan to re-educate/reform the girls, that will guarantee them the bacon on the table.

the way i see it, life will be back to normal in due course.
Lol, yes! I've never connected with more hot pinoy's on different networking sites than during the past 2-3 weeks! It is crazy. Ofcourse, none of them admit having worked in this trade though. But I'm already planning on meeting up with 2-3 of them
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Re: NEW ANGELES CITY (Pampanga, Balibago, Subic and anywhere else in PI)

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fact is, none of the girls r forced to do what they're doing. and since they have the freedom to say yes or no, the trafficking clause doesnt apply.
Actually, I believe that in some countries they are kinda forced into it. But not in the philippines, and not in thailand. Those 2 countries along with cambodi and vietnam I am 100% sure that all my aquaintances were unforced. But perhaps somewhere in Africa they are. And maybe a short few in China are. Although 95% of the chinese do it without being forced as well. And in Africa the reasons are just different. But who likes african girls anyway? At least the ones who gets trafficed away from africa (the nigerians!)
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def affects indo..lots of lokassi have been shut down by police on claims of human trafficing...i was in bandar baru mear medan and that was what the hotel guys wwere telling me
The raiding disease has spread..... just received info that raid is happening in Danok now.
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The raiding disease has spread..... just received info that raid is happening in Danok now.
Holy Shit!!
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Re: NEW ANGELES CITY (Pampanga, Balibago, Subic and anywhere else in PI)

i think this is typical herd behaviour.....






the spoils will go to the 'brave' in my books...........if anyone and everyone is staying away from AC n cancelling....


can u just imagine the gals that will b fighting over u , the rare 'poreigner' that will show up.....since there is now practically ZERO punters around given all the non stop negativity being trashed about....

no need to even ask for LT, the gal will never leave u at all ! ............
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no need to even ask for LT, the gal will never leave u at all ! ............
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