Just needed a channel to vent

[Reoxy]

Originally Posted by sgjoey

And no, abortion is not murder because it's a foetus, and not fully human yet.

The Pope does not agree with you on this.

[sgjoey]

The Pope? Despite appearances, he's a totally irrelevant human in the modern era. He also says no condoms. That's just how silly he is.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

no matter what happen, the baby is innocent and denying it a chance to come to this word is utter cruelty.

[SHalone]

Life is short, it might sound selfish but you need to be happy first before you can do more for people around you.
No one is prefect, for your daughter try to make it up to her as much as u can. And take good care of your parents. The rest are secondrary.
No point looking back, u let woman down and this has become a fact. But this doesn't stop u making a difference in another woman life.
For the baby you abort, I have no comments but hopefully if god willing he or she would be your baby in a better situation or family environment.

Good luck

[goodpartner]

Are killing sperms considered taking "lifes" too?

Because Sperms are cheap, Eggs are expensive.

[sgjoey]

Originally Posted by Shuang_Jie_Gun

no matter what happen, the baby is innocent and denying it a chance to come to this word is utter cruelty.

Letting an unwanted child be born is much more cruel than aborting it.

Millions of fully grown cows, pigs, chickens and sheep are slaughtered everyday to cater to the human taste for animal meat. That is cruelty which is almost totally concealed from public eyes, and which the public doesn't want to know about anyway. The killing is only part of the cruelty, by the way. The conditions under which these farm animals have been produced entail months and years of cruelty for each and every one of them.

In comparison, the abortion of a fetus that can hardly feel anything is actually nothing.

[hickeybites]

I'm neither for nor against abortion... there are a myriad of factors/ reasons behind the couple's decision that none of us are privy to. Therefore I won't dare to judge.
However I believe that parenthood is a wondrous blessing (AND a HUGE responsibility that perhaps never ceases even when our kids grow old themselves).
I just can't imagine the emotions that TS's wife could be experiencing right now... impending grief & guilt of voluntarily killing one's own flesh & blood, after which likely more pain with divorce looming...

TS: from your post, it does seem that there's still the love between you & your wife. And if you can say sorry & feel sorry & even shed tears... perhaps all is not lost...
And please don't forget the child that you have now - it's not just about you & your wife -- your child is totally innocent. I hope that you & your wife is shielding the child from any animosity & fights. Whatever the decision that you both decide in the end, please ALWAYS put the child as priority! If ultimately you & your wife simply cannot live together as a couple anymore, at least do your utmost to be good parents & provide a stable environment for your child. Your child deserves that...

[ATAP]

Think TS marriage at a young age (around 16 or 17) which cause him to stray. He mentioned he go for his FIRST commercial sex because his wife did not cater for his needs. And in another post, he mentioned he tried FIRST commercial sex when he is about 18 years old. Think he should be still quite young if this is the case. We should talk some senses into him.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Originally Posted by ATAP

Think TS marriage at a young age (around 16 or 17) which cause him to stray. He mentioned he go for his FIRST commercial sex because his wife did not cater for his needs. And in another post, he mentioned he tried FIRST commercial sex when he is about 18 years old. Think he should be still quite young if this is the case. We should talk some senses into him.

I agreed with you.

Thread: why do I stray?
http://sammyboy.online/showthr...t=#post5946506

Originally Posted by Yaphets

I'd like to answer this question changing it to "why do I stray"?

I used to be someone whom thought that I'd never stray in a relationship. But recently I just went for my first commercial sex. And I know that once I step into it, there will definitely be a second and a third time. So why did I stray? Simply because sex at home is unbearably mundane. I'm not accusing my partner of not being able to pleasure me enough. I'm accusing her at not trying to. So thus sex between us is totally boring for me. But it is not boring for her at all because I'm doing a great job satisfying her needs. How do I know? Because I've talked to her many times on the topic already. Until I find it really screwed up then I finally decided to go for commercial sex. So for me, it's because I'm being I'll treated and starved at home that's why I choose not to torture myself and eat out instead.

Thread: Re: Is 18 too young?
http://sammyboy.online/showthr...t=#post6389713

Originally Posted by Yaphets

Actually I stepped into commercial sex at a young age too. Somewhere near or similar to your age if you ask. Many commented that I'm very young too. But you'll get used to it very soon la. Not really a big issue if that's your concern. But someone told me this on my first few visits before. If you stray once, you'll stray the second, third, fourth time etc. And it was proven to be really true. As in going for commercial sex. So I hope you can consider carefully first. Because it's pretty expensive if you work and pay for it yourself. Otherwise, if you have plenty of spare cash, why not?

Bros/Sis should advise and talk some sense into him cos saving a life is a good deed

[plmnc]

now my wife back to normal again liao...but i still giving her the semi-cold treatment...

[Reoxy]

Originally Posted by sgjoey

The Pope? Despite appearances, he's a totally irrelevant human in the modern era. He also says no condoms. That's just how silly he is.

He is definitely more relevant than you are.

Originally Posted by sgjoey

Letting an unwanted child be born is much more cruel than aborting it.

Millions of fully grown cows, pigs, chickens and sheep are slaughtered everyday to cater to the human taste for animal meat.

In comparison, the abortion of a fetus that can hardly feel anything is actually nothing.

If the child is unwanted, why impregnate in the first place? One must be responsible for his actions and accept the full consequences.

Pls tell me you are a vegetarian. If not, you are just being hypocritical.

[hamsapkwai]

And could have been an outstanding Samster if allowed to be born.

Hell now we`ll never know

[sgjoey]

Originally Posted by Reoxy

He is definitely more relevant than you are.

After years of sexual abuse of boys by priests and doing nothing about it? That's a rather strange interpretation of relevance.

If the child is unwanted, why impregnate in the first place? One must be responsible for his actions and accept the full consequences.

Because of people such as the Pope, for goodness sake! He forbids the use of condoms -- you still don't geddit, do you?

Pls tell me you are a vegetarian. If not, you are just being hypocritical.

I have the highest regard for vegetarians because I lack the will to be one. To recognise one's weakness is not to be hypocritical. It is because of my awareness of the cruelty of farm practices that I KNOW that the abortion of a fetus is nothing compared to that.

[BBSS]

Dear Bros here,

just my experience to share. I am married to a KTV gal for 3 years and we still live separately.
Everything is ok with my 1 year 2 times visit and her visiting to apply for PR for us to get a HDB.
Initially our agreement is that she will stay in sg after I am financially stable.
I owed some credit cards bill.
But I think things took a turn after her dad passed away and I neber showed enough care for her.
For the last 1.5 years, she give me the cold shoulder and when we talk over the phone, she seems not interested at all.
I met her in BJ last month and she was still that cold. I know something was wrong and she even dare to open her QQ chatting with someone she label My Dear.
Lan Lan tok to her on this and that is her BF. And say I can divorce her any time.
Have to say that I really love her alot. So I tell her she can do wat she want right now and just let me take care of her when she is 60 yrs old.
She got a weak heart and I really need to take care of her in my opinion.
Deep inside I really felt hurtful. Even now I am back in sg, I also miss her despite her affairs.
Think I am the most pitiful peerson in life right now. But then again, I was in vietnam for a few days recently and went to some ktv whereby the charbo so swee and treat you so well. A little tempted but still what I want to say is
I think I owed my wife alot and I gonna stick to her forever.

Any comments is welcome.

[Reoxy]

Originally Posted by sgjoey

After years of sexual abuse of boys by priests and doing nothing about it? That's a rather strange interpretation of relevance.

The relative level or relevance remains the same: He is more relevant to the world than you are.

Originally Posted by sgjoey

Because of people such as the Pope, for goodness sake! He forbids the use of condoms -- you still don't geddit, do you?

There are many ways of contraception. When accidents happen because one does not take precautions, one must be responsible and bear the consequence. People do what they want to do but yet are not fully prepared to take responsibility.

Originally Posted by sgjoey

It is because of my awareness of the cruelty of farm practices that I KNOW that the abortion of a fetus is nothing compared to that.

This is hypocrisy at its worst.

In Chinese context, the Tiger is considered the most vicious of all animals. Having said that, we Chinese have a saying: Even a Tigeress does not eat her own cubs.

Why would anyone want to make comparison with animals?