Depressed

[Summersnowz]

Originally Posted by burningicez

Agree! they will not be any future if you cannot forget her pass!!! Let her go...

Bro,

Agreed with you on this! Life just have to move on, though not easy, but is the determination that counts.

[LoveAffair]

It's been a better day with positive comments and advises flooding in. Some are wake up msges while some are not really effective..
Nevertheless, I sincerely appreciate the effort some of u make. Eg. Big Sexy on deleting her past threads. That is the major first step for me if I were to continue the r/s. some might think its useless but to me it's really helpful.
I am still grieving over the past.
Guess I would need a while more to ask myself is it really going to work. Till date, I must emphasized again the effort that she made, changes that are made.. Those are constant. I hate myself for being indecisive. But I really thought of having a future before. ESP when both are families come close during gatherings. I have also tried converting her to a Christian which I am. Guess its better to go one step at a time. Letting the Lord do his miracle.
I dont mind for more advises. Coz it really will help. This thread has made me recharged one way or another from some bros MSG.

Thanks.

[hamsapkwai]

That confirms it Sammyboy is in comatose state these few days , someone better go check on his pulse

[Ynwa0101]

All the best bro....

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

It's been a better day with positive comments and advises flooding in. Some are wake up msges while some are not really effective..
Nevertheless, I sincerely appreciate the effort some of u make. Eg. Big Sexy on deleting her past threads. That is the major first step for me if I were to continue the r/s. some might think its useless but to me it's really helpful.
I am still grieving over the past.
Guess I would need a while more to ask myself is it really going to work. Till date, I must emphasized again the effort that she made, changes that are made.. Those are constant. I hate myself for being indecisive. But I really thought of having a future before. ESP when both are families come close during gatherings. I have also tried converting her to a Christian which I am. Guess its better to go one step at a time. Letting the Lord do his miracle.
I dont mind for more advises. Coz it really will help. This thread has made me recharged one way or another from some bros MSG.

Thanks.

[frivolous_ami]

There is never any clear answer in relationship. Criminals also deserve a 2nd chance. My lao bu was prob working in a lup sup joint though i ve never asked about it. My view is, let history be past. People make mistakes and i am no saint.

If a gal can be so honest and be willing to change, i dun see an issue. I would be very dulan if she cant come clean or at least be willing to change n move on. I know my lao bu suffered for the family. In fact, i will be ready to give my respect for these gals cos they are ready to sacrifice for family. Normal gals may not be any better... if you know what i mean. Normal gals may even screw you for not making enough or not driving a car.

Ultimate decision still lies with ts. It will be difficult but we should not live with regrets. Some years later, you will look back either with regret or pleasant memories. Do not make a hasty decision and regret.

Ps: be happy if you have someone you love because its a blessing that dont come everyday.

[ROCKERS]

"I have also tried converting her to a Christian which I am. Guess its better to go one step at a time. Letting the Lord do his miracle. "


I am proud to tell you my devil in me has been defeated for 6min 66sec
by your strong willpower!

[heye]

bro if u tink it tis way which gal is not F by other guys.... as long as she is faithfult o u why not... we have gals who is SO decent lookin and yet F behinf th ehusband or BF.....
If u look @ urself is she ur only women the entire life...
she is willing to change for u and why dun u give her a chance..... wat u ahve ample $$$ or are u savue like edison then u should start reflecting

[heye]

i realli wish u happiness .... u cant change the past but u can create ur future

[insultress]

from a ladies point of view....if u love her enough. let her go.
if you couldnt do it for yourself at least do it for her.
its obvious you dont accept her for who she is or was despite her changes and constantly judge her. even to the extent of trying to convert her?? dude, come on.

if you really love someone you dont try to change them to fit you.
moreover, she has changed for you so thats more effort im seeing on her part than from you. you're just being selfish. cut it clean and move on. at least you'll know you made a positive difference in a small part of her life. she'd be better of without you hunkering over her past.

everything to date has been about you and you claim to love her so.
then do the right thing and act based on whats good for her and not yourself.
what she choses to do with her life from here on out is her choice but at least u gave a taste of a different path. hopefully one which she continues on and not falling back into the past. thats her mistake to make and not yours to decide.

[AHH2222MK6]

First step, To dear TS, please sing to this lyric and ease your depression first
It's a human sign
When things go wrong
When the scent of her lingers
And temptation's strong

Into the boundary
Of each married man
Sweet deceit comes calling
And negativity lands

Cold, cold heart
Hard done by you
Some things look better, baby
Just passing through

And it's no sacrifice
Just a simple word
It's two hearts living
In two separate worlds
But it's no sacrifice
No sacrifice
It's no sacrifice at all

Mutual misunderstanding
After the fact
Sensitivity builds a prison
In the final act

We lose direction
No stone unturned
No tears to damn you
When jealousy burns

2nd Step: After you finish singing the above song, go and tell your FL cum gf that you wanted her so badly and you would give her this world as long as she discontinue her profession in flesh trade. Make sure you negotiate T&C with your gf

3rd Step: Once 2nd step is done, you can proceed to log in SBF and post a new thread or reply at present thread that you FL cum gf is no longer a public commodity and she's sincerely all yours (of course you wont expose that your are the FL's lover, right)

4th Step: Finish 2nd step? Then proceed to pack your FL cum gf over your place and begin your lovey-dovey I love U love me story and spice up your intimacy with sexual fantasy that you yearning to do like those AV type. Once the FL is under your possession, she will obeys you and pleases you in any form and kind. Then, repeat and repeat over and over again.....

Last but not least: Step 1,2,3,4, what next? You can climb up to Marina Tower and make a headline. "I want to die for you bla bla bla.. because a new thread has been opened in SBF once more promoting your FL cum gf services and unlimited FRs has been posted by mongers who have upped your FL cum GF with those nasty things they do, DFK, BBBJ, 69, Missionary and you name it"... and tomorrow the daily paper will post a tiny column of a lad whose turning into a sorrow knight who perished his life for a whore."


No pun intended to dear TS. I might be talking crap but did you know when a woman engage in flesh trade, it is not an optional or alternative solution to earn a living although there are many women in this universe is learning less and lesser than your desired FL cum gf. Once your FL cum GF resort to do FL, obviously to say that your FL cum GF has made a choice that will influence the individual surrounding her, family, friends, boy-friends or lovers that to those who knew her trust whether past or present, she will be condemned but what to do. She is already engaging in trade. Selling body inclusive providing sexual services to men in exchange for money like what you said she is earning so little and FL is just a part time.

Perhaps you try and figure out a solution best for both of you. Maybe you can try to persuade your FL cum GF to engage in other trade instead of selling body. At least you will feel better reading lesser FRs regarding your FL cum GF servicing men within Sillypore. But you will also read some other FRs like she's offering B2B with BBBJ and all sort of explicit services you can imagine. At least you will feel better reading your FL cum GF only providing AR, BBBBJ, HJ. Trust me The conclusion is simple. If you FL cum GF was a foreigner, no option and choice for her to work in better environment although she could be earning lesser money. The only way for a your FL cum GF to earn extra income, many options available in Sillypore. But still, she needs to provide extra service which is involving flesh trading.

[LoveAffair]

Thank u for your reply. But i really hope u can take a little bit more effort in reading before posting. By loving her enough.. Sighs.... Try not to take it from the offensive way uh huh?

I supposed I have mentioned that i initiate breaking up a couple of times. In fact, more than a couple. I have told her time and time again that the best way is to part. I even try explaining why we can't be together. That big lie - as an escort, too much to swallow. I would rather she come clean with me which should be the way from the very start. At least it's being fair on me. Which then, I
will think if we are suitable. I am not too sure about your point of view but I do had a few female friends that are close enough to sought advise for. It's a little bit uneasy to see u saying :

If u love her enough. let her go. 
if you couldnt do it for yourself at least do it for her.

You sound like I wanted her so badly that I am tormenting her. Which is disappointing to see.. For the fact that u are upset that I try converting her to a Christian is quite surprising too. I hope u are not being too much of the anti-religion thingy. I wished to
point out that I'm not entirely a religious or rather "holy" person. I'm not against any other religion too. It works both ways u see.. She knows I'm a Christian and to my parents place, my family are all too. Im born a Christian. She is currently a free thinker, and I just figured why not? I'm not forcing? I'm not buying a cross for her to wear.. Im not putting a bible and make it a "must read".... And of course I'm not pulling her to church..? So, please... Please... Try not to sound like I'm demanding a change in her. She told me she would like to go to a church and I simply d/l a bible application and thought of converting her that's just it.  Nothing else. No force no nothing. Don't have to be so pissed if u are.. Hope u are feeling better lady..

And yes, I cannot accept her past. Mainly due to the big lie. If it happened before, I would have the phobia it might happen again in the future. I'm not Mr Tough guy when it comes to r/s. that is why all the depress, sadness pops up. I'm lost. I came in to SBF to sought more advices. That's all. 

We all have different point of view towards love. It's a complicated one there. Sometimes when u love someone enough, u changed for them. Whereas in your case, u think if u love someone enough u accept me for who I am. I'm not saying u are wrong in this aspect. She initiate to change even when I told her to be yourself. Isn't it very comforting..? That's the beautiful part for me. I dont demand much. I have to admit the most suckiest part is only when i insulted her verbally if u looked at my initial thread. I am not that demanding.. Obviously certain things gotta changed if we still wish to continue. Things like going back to the past.. I'm sure if u had a bf who used to work in Thai boys club u would want him to change that to becoming a normal guy isn't it? Unless u don't....
I frankly don't remember myself mentioning anything like wanting her to change etc. so yup.. Maybe it's your assumption again which I don't blame u at all..

I disagree to a certain extent when u said everything to date is about me. Disagree because if i were to see her as a slut still, or if everything is about me like u said, I wouldn't have introduced her to my family. I wouldnt have spent quality time with her family. I wouldnt make that extra effort to bring both families together for a simple meal. I wouldnt kept her past from her new friends, her family etc. I wouldnt even go the extra mile to pick her up from her work despite being tired. So its not exactly everything is about me.
And True to a smaller extent because I still find it hard to accept the fact that she got laid by NUMEROUS. U are not a guy, and that is why u will never understand lady. Unfortunately, I'm not perfect. I can't forget her past just like that. Everyone reacts to certain things differently and I need more time which I already mentioned to her till date. I hope to see more stability although she already proved. But i still felt this uneasiness deep within. And that is why I'm silently demanding more stability. It's only normal for me I supposed. Even though she continue to give her best.. The longer I see her staying this way, the lesser I would think of her past. So what's wrong with everything is about me. She is doing her best to prove to me and I am still observing. That should be the normal thing as least, for me. 

You have to bear in mind again that on numerous occasion, I asked her to look forward. Each time she drop tears and hold me. I am indecisive on this till date. Her family doesnt want me to leave and how is that? Tell them about her past? Show them the FRs so they would understand??? This is the killer blow. That is why im in here to look for more advises. If i can come out with a decision fast, I
Wouldn't have come in here or get high at certain nights talking and confiding with friends. Ultimately, decision i still had to make and because I seriously still had feelings for her, I doubt I can make a decision so fast. No one will understand the exact feeling I feel. 


I don't wish to elaborate more on this. But I seriously appreciate your kind effort in replying my thread. 

Originally Posted by insultress

from a ladies point of view....if u love her enough. let her go.
if you couldnt do it for yourself at least do it for her.
its obvious you dont accept her for who she is or was despite her changes and constantly judge her. even to the extent of trying to convert her?? dude, come on.

if you really love someone you dont try to change them to fit you.
moreover, she has changed for you so thats more effort im seeing on her part than from you. you're just being selfish. cut it clean and move on. at least you'll know you made a positive difference in a small part of her life. she'd be better of without you hunkering over her past.

everything to date has been about you and you claim to love her so.
then do the right thing and act based on whats good for her and not yourself.
what she choses to do with her life from here on out is her choice but at least u gave a taste of a different path. hopefully one which she continues on and not falling back into the past. thats her mistake to make and not yours to decide.

[sgjoey]

I will probably be zapped for saying this, but the truth is the truth.

All religion is crap. Religion is just another form of politics. It is designed to control the behavior of the masses. What better way of getting large masses of people to behave than getting them to believe that god is watching you all the time or that karma will ensure that you will be punished for doing bad things?

The simple truth and the stark reality is that it is safe to ignore religion. Just be law-abiding and get on with members of your community. The reason we need to do so is not because of god or karma but just so that civilised existence is possible.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Errr, actually, you did want to break up but still together now. So, if you really want to break up and dun want her around anymore she also no choice agree? So this answers what Insultress was trying to emphasise in her reply to you.

Insultress, your comments are noted though agreed in many ways, do not perceive religion, in this case, being a christian in your own perception. I'm roman catholic and I know where is TS coming from. Christians minus roman catholics are something like muslims, you want to join us, you better convert. Only diff is Christians minus catholics evangalise and muslims dun.

sggoey, well said. Religion is only a directional pointer, so its still up to the individual to walk the correct direction.

TS, you proudly proclaim you're a christian and try to convert her, then why you go call prostitute?

My advise you to you is get 2 things right.
Want to fuck, fuck until sextisfaction.
Want to love, love until go crazy.
Want to marry a whore or ex whore, must be able to accept her past
Cannot accept her past, then have a good enjoyable fuck!

Your situation now is like, running round in a circular room looking for a corner to relak la bro

Also, if you start a thread, you must be open to all opinions good or bad. Whether you can accept or not.
Some will find your plight pitiful, some will find you a moron some will even shrug you off as plain boliao.

If you read all the posts with your heart, the answer you seek is already there and its plain to see.

[sinner1234]

Originally Posted by sgjoey

I will probably be zapped for saying this, but the truth is the truth.

All religion is crap. Religion is just another form of politics. It is designed to control the behavior of the masses. What better way of getting large masses of people to behave than getting them to believe that god is watching you all the time or that karma will ensure that you will be punished for doing bad things?

The simple truth and the stark reality is that it is safe to ignore religion. Just be law-abiding and get on with members of your community. The reason we need to do so is not because of god or karma but just so that civilised existence is possible.

I second to the above explanation.

Was a christian. Now.. F.T.........

But i still believe in God though... just that i see no need to have to be a christian in order to be with God.. :S


Dear Bro sgjoey,

Quote:
All religion is crap.

The quoted sentence is abit errr too "strong"...... "Belief" maybe more approp.
Just my opinion only.


Gd day to ya.




Nowadays... church sessions.. esp those with large followings are no different to the ones stated in the bible....... following "blindly".......

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

FOREWORD:

With due respect to all religions, faiths, beliefs, believers and non believers

It is a statement about morality in the subjective sense

This morality is by no means self-evident nor refer to me

Originally Posted by sgjoey

I will probably be zapped for saying this, but the truth is the truth.

All religion is crap. Religion is just another form of politics. It is designed to control the behavior of the masses. What better way of getting large masses of people to behave than getting them to believe that god is watching you all the time or that karma will ensure that you will be punished for doing bad things?

The simple truth and the stark reality is that it is safe to ignore religion. Just be law-abiding and get on with members of your community. The reason we need to do so is not because of god or karma but just so that civilised existence is possible.

Please allow me to soften the above comment.

All religions essentially preaches morality and each religion has its own rites, rituals, ceremonies, cults, beliefs and dogma.

IMHO, most often the root of the issues are the followers when they are misguided and develop a tremendous amount of attachment to their own rites, rituals, faith and dogma as the only means of salvation. Such misguided persons may not have even a trace of morality, a trace of love, compassion and good will towards others and yet remain under the impression that they are religious persons cos they have performed such and such rite or ritual or cos they have full faith in a particular belief. They are actually deluding themselves and missing the nectar of the practice of the true essence of religion.

People with strong attachment to their own faith have the firm belief that the followers of all other religions are non-believers and therefor will never taste salvation. They are fully convinced that to convert others to their religion is a great meritorious deed and hence they apply various coercive methods. With such blind faith, these followers are likely to turn into fanatic fundamentalism leading to controversies, contradictions, violent confrontations and even wars and bloodshed resulting in a tremendous amount of misery in the society wiping away its peace and harmony. Ironically, all this is done in the name of religion.

In short: The greatest common denominator of all religions essentially preaches MORALITY - A true religious life where one lives a moral code of conduct, a happy harmonious healthy, wholesome life, in peace and harmony within oneself and generates nothing but peace and harmony others. A life that is always good for oneself, good for others, and good for the entire human society. A life that protects the weak and against all hideous crime and scams

Anyway, in the spirit of this forum, we are just laypeople wandering around this realm with only a short span of life. Don't be too hard on ourselves and enjoy sex while it last