Action to stop the inflation of local FLs - Page 4

Mael · #46 19-08-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut123

Please, its just an occupational hazard. Every job has some asshole customers to put up with. Even an executive sitting in an office gets fucked by customers and his boss and has to smile through it all after being verbally abused for 3 straight hours, or risk losing his job. A fireman risks getting killed putting out a fire, and even a taxi-driver risks getting killed in an accident after driving for 8 straight hours.

How is having sex with a stinky guy any worse than any of the above, esp if you are getting paid $150 or more per hour, which I dare say is way above the average salary in Singapore. Your "Oh I'm suffering so much" card just does not work because all the guys in this forum know exactly what is going on.

Good point, difficult to argue against this post right here.

localmonster · #47 19-08-2010, 11:28 PM

Prices are getting higher, but thats a fact of life. There is no technology today that can mass produce pussies to satisfy everyone for the price of a plate of chicken rice.

Let free market reign, but however we should have a better feedback system (something like hungrygowhere) where there are average ratings on a FL. Every FL should be rated. I was recently told off because i gave a brutally honest feedback on a $300 hooker. If she felt she was worth it so be it, however i didn't and i gave my feedback and in time to come her ratings will be more obvious with more customers.

Also for local FL, we should be able to meet them and then decide if they are worth the money instead of booking hotel rooms and then on top of that pay a rejection fee.

Charge whatever you think your cunt is worth but you will be reviewed by your customers

KingCheong · #48 19-08-2010, 11:29 PM

Guys as much as I appreciate your response here, I would like to officially state again for the record, I am NOT advocating any boycott here!
All along my intention is to highlight the plight of fellow brudders here caused by the inflating prices of local FLs without any reasonable cause, and to gather a list of brudders here who, like me, had to reduce their frequency of booking local FLs so as to highlight the impact of the matter.

But so far only 1 brudder joined my list...

Redhill · #49 19-08-2010, 11:53 PM

Action to stop the inflation of local FLs

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With so many debate going on about the increase in prices for local FL, I think there is enough talk about the grievances that all the brothers out there face, including myself.

Seriously it's actually good that local FLs are so expensive these days because it forces me to stop patronizing them due to the ridiculous fees charged by the respective OKTs. If I really have to, I will just go visit HCs, PRCs or maybe even visit JB for a quick alternative release.

Just 2-3 yrs ago I could engage maximum 2 FLs a month depending the price I pay, usually I will choose FLs between $150 to $250, maximum I'm willing to go to is $300, but those are rare. And I make sure I recover my wallet before going on to the next one. But as the prices for local FLs go up, my frequency of visit drops. As much as I want to, it is just not economically rational for me anymore to engage any local FLs above my budget.

It is not just about economics, I mean every session is about 120 mins (that's the time for each hotel booking) right? But seriously, if we break it down how much time is spent on bonking? Let's see:

FLs generally are late 15-20 mins
Shower - 10 mins
Chit chat / ice-breaking - 5 - 10 mins
Rest after 1st round provided round 2 is permitted - 10 mins

So in all already more than 30 mins of the 2 hrs can be wasted without even touching the FL. That leaves us with what around 90 mins to enjoy. But how many of us actually fully utilise those 90 mins? So to those FLs that charge $300 to even as high as $800 or $1000, it is crazy and I really salute bros who pay that kind of money for less than 90 mins work? With this kind of rates which girl don't want to become FL? And rates as far as I can tell only go up not down.

Best of all, this is a profession that is not supervised and not controlled by any regulator. It is everyone for themselves to grab as much money as they can. So when there's no cap why not charge higher and higher, similar to the BPL player transfer market.

I'm not ashamed to admit, yes I am not a big earner. And looking at the trend very soon I can forget about booking a local FL. So is this going to hurt me more or the FLs and OKTs more? Looking at the growing dissent from bros in this forum I believe I'm not alone, OKTs need to take this seriously IF they want to remain in business. Obviosly they prefer to market their FLs like District 10 landed properties. But only a small portion of the customers here can afford those, bulk of the customers in SBF want to buy HDB flats or maybe condo units. If your a smart OKT you should market your FLs at that price range to capture the MAJORITY of the market share and maybe it will even encourage repeat (RTF) customers for you. One thing I'm quite certain, SBF bros do appreciate an understanding OKT.

But I believe no amount of talk can be compared to hard statistics. So I'm going to start a "I STOPPED BOOKING LOCAL FLs DUE TO SKY ROCKETING PRICE" petition. If you agree and share my above sentiments, just copy and paste my posting and insert your nick below mine. Let's see how far this list can go.

I STOPPED BOOKING LOCAL FLs DUE TO SKY ROCKETING PRICE

Redhill. I agree with you bro. I rather go geylang. With the high price, at least the girls go for monthly check up. You would rather pay for that than local OKT who didn't send the girls for checkup and just pocket the money.
We pay higher but higher risk for your stables. What for?

natsuki · #50 20-08-2010, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by *chantel*

FYI, I didn't blame anyone in my post I only simply stated that it was part of the expenses so stop twisting my words around.

Sweetie! There are plenty of such men around, no point reasoning with them... (or rather.. him?) well, if we think we r worth the value, we are. Moreover, we are still consider budget fls ma..

Note: Chantel is 120/an hr. Natsuki (me) is 90/an hr. Felyn is 130/an hr. Jeidi is 110/sgd. I suppose, we should be counted budget bonks right?

Now, here's my reply to TS:

Look,there are plenty of budget bonks around... Maybe... just maybe... Our threads are just being neglected that's why... Well, wad i wanna say is.. If one is not willing to pay for the price of a fl is asking for, drop her. No point saying stop wadever inflation. Ure a buyer yes, but end of the day, it's up to the seller who is fixing the price isn't it? I set my price, after doing my homework... For the rest, i dunnoe...

I'd been seeing this thread for days, and then.... U complaint, end of the day, will Okts market their girls in a lower price? or will some 18/19 yo SYT let u bonk them with less then 150sgd? It's natural, girls who are younger tend to have a higher demand, and as the demand is there, the price range will be there, talk to a girl who was 10 yrs ago an syt, will she be demanding as much as a current syt? Answer will definately be No. Yes, if there r ex-syt who demand higher rate den current syts, by all means, drop her then. And if the Ex-syt felt she is worth it, then respect her choice. Ultimately it's up to consumers(note: more then 1) to decide whether one is worth the value or not.

We are talking about facts here.

Yes, stop the inflation might be ur ultimate motive of this thread. But den, to TS, have u ever thought about we-this group of budget bonk fls? ='( I voice out because i felt that it's unfair to gerenalise every local fl. TS, please be more specific...

Take care, have a plesant weekend. I do not wish to have an arguements with anyone, thus, this will be my only post in this thread, i hope.

crofton · #51 20-08-2010, 08:43 AM

SUPPORT U ALL BRO! I also nvr book local FL, i really prefer thai meat, and lately chinese meat...

Local FL prices are really getting alot higher esp those that are abit more attractive...

BOYCOTT!!

Mael · #52 20-08-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by natsuki

Sweetie! There are plenty of such men around, no point reasoning with them... (or rather.. him?) well, if we think we r worth the value, we are. Moreover, we are still consider budget fls ma..

Note: Chantel is 120/an hr. Natsuki (me) is 90/an hr. Felyn is 130/an hr. Jeidi is 110/sgd. I suppose, we should be counted budget bonks right?

Now, here's my reply to TS:

Look,there are plenty of budget bonks around... Maybe... just maybe... Our threads are just being neglected that's why... Well, wad i wanna say is.. If one is not willing to pay for the price of a fl is asking for, drop her. No point saying stop wadever inflation. Ure a buyer yes, but end of the day, it's up to the seller who is fixing the price isn't it? I set my price, after doing my homework... For the rest, i dunnoe...

I'd been seeing this thread for days, and then.... U complaint, end of the day, will Okts market their girls in a lower price? or will some 18/19 yo SYT let u bonk them with less then 150sgd? It's natural, girls who are younger tend to have a higher demand, and as the demand is there, the price range will be there, talk to a girl who was 10 yrs ago an syt, will she be demanding as much as a current syt? Answer will definately be No. Yes, if there r ex-syt who demand higher rate den current syts, by all means, drop her then. And if the Ex-syt felt she is worth it, then respect her choice. Ultimately it's up to consumers(note: more then 1) to decide whether one is worth the value or not.

We are talking about facts here.

Yes, stop the inflation might be ur ultimate motive of this thread. But den, to TS, have u ever thought about we-this group of budget bonk fls? ='( I voice out because i felt that it's unfair to gerenalise every local fl. TS, please be more specific...

Take care, have a plesant weekend. I do not wish to have an arguements with anyone, thus, this will be my only post in this thread, i hope.

I think you girls either have to read more carefully or the threadstarter should perhaps have worded it better. Although I think his thread was pretty clear.

He stated

"Just 2-3 yrs ago I could engage maximum 2 FLs a month depending the price I pay, usually I will choose FLs between $150 to $250, maximum I'm willing to go to is $300, but those are rare. And I make sure I recover my wallet before going on to the next one. But as the prices for local FLs go up, my frequency of visit drops. As much as I want to, it is just not economically rational for me anymore to engage any local FLs above my budget.

So in all already more than 30 mins of the 2 hrs can be wasted without even touching the FL. That leaves us with what around 90 mins to enjoy. But how many of us actually fully utilise those 90 mins? So to those FLs that charge $300 to even as high as $800 or $1000, it is crazy and I really salute bros who pay that kind of money for less than 90 mins work? With this kind of rates which girl don't want to become FL? And rates as far as I can tell only go up not down."

So isnt it plain he's not even targeting your demographic? He's referring to the crazy prices some FLs command(like 600-800 dollars), which in all probability is split halfway with the pimp anyways. I contend he should have said something like "Action to stop the inflation of local FLs that charge above 500", so as to stop prickling certain sensitive souls though.

So rest assured, the TS isnt referring to you, chantel, or the bunch of girlys that have modest and professional services well worth our coin.

Ferris_SOCAL · #53 20-08-2010, 12:18 PM

I think risk analysis is the proper way to look at it.

My background. I'm from another country, and we've got a lot of providers. Just like SG, some are good and some are really bad. Once you've been burned, or more than once, you start taking a really hard look at a provider that charges more than the going rate.
I've been here a year and I've seen the prices go up for many of the providers. Lately I would attribute that to the rise in demand from YOG, visitors, F1, casinos and what not. We also have a lot more folks with disposable $$ in their wallets.
I'm OK if a few girls charge more for their services if they are good. But the higher the price tag and the newer the girl, the risk of disappoint and loss of $$ goes up and is pretty intimidating.
If the girl/OKT are going to offer high then let them. Stick with an established and trusted OKT to insure performance.
I am against really bad service at ANY price. So far, I've only come up against one girl who was really bad, and the price was higher than I would have expected for her level of service.
Can I risk spending my $$ on a new girl? Should I stick with a known service. In this community, bad service will get around and both the girl and OKT go down together.
Sorry long-winded, but prices are on the rise for average service providers with few skills, and that's wrong in my book.

dey.savio · #54 20-08-2010, 01:38 PM

HHmm... I think at the end of the day it's we the one will decide whether we want local FL or not, it's not fair to boycott them but we have a choice to engage their service or not lor... We as a customer have choices rite? It's up to individual to decide.... No Local, import also no problem... but if local serve better and worth the $$ why not? Subjective lah this topic... Most importantly both of us happy... 50-50...

Cheers!

tagduty · #55 20-08-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dey.savio

HHmm... I think at the end of the day it's we the one will decide whether we want local FL or not, it's not fair to boycott them but we have a choice to engage their service or not lor... We as a customer have choices rite? It's up to individual to decide.... No Local, import also no problem... but if local serve better and worth the $$ why not? Subjective lah this topic... Most importantly both of us happy... 50-50...

Cheers!

In Bold: That's prolly the gist. TS did mention that he was able to have fun and at the same time be kind to his pocket. And all this happened not too long ago, give or take 2-3 years ago. Now, kinda hard. Yes, there are FLs out there within his budget but if they were his cup of tea (choices) we wouldn't be having this thread now would we?? The problem is, imo, is that it is simply ridiculous that some FLs are marketed at exorbitant price range by their OKTs.

In Red: Where's the justification? How do u justify? Unless it's an RTF how else can u be sure ur going to pay for good services and looks? Being visually stimulated creatures that we are, I admit that I'm a sucker for looks and looking at beautifully taken studio pics, I would almost definitely hope that the girl AT LEAST look 70% like the picture. I wouldn't say I've been conned but I guess its pretty much caveat emptor eh.That said, my OKTs cheonging days have been somewhat limited nowadays and I tend to look for local FLs or imports. Lately, I have been bonking pinoys but they too have just increased their price. From 100/2/2 to 200/2/2. That just means I will bonk lesser pinoys.

qwqwwq · #56 20-08-2010, 03:18 PM

I agree wholeheartedly with threadstarter.

1.the global economic crises has cost many brothers jobs and bonuses.

2. what the local FL are experiencing are just part and parcel of the occupation. please dont tell me china,korean etc FL dont need to experience smelly, rude customers. we as customers also need to bear with rude and lousy service local FL,hello, who is the one paying?sometimes i feel im the FL and the local FL is the boss.

3. for 300sgd(local FL) so call budget bonk(in my terms),ive experienced horrible service OR an aunty old enough to be my mum disguised to be in her late 20s. for 300sgd i could get super PRC.its not the money,its the returns of the money.please dont think that all rich guys like to be a carrothead.

i have paid 850sgd,1k sgd 200sgd,300sgd,500sgd for local FLs,local models blah blah,10percent are worth the value including one at 850sgd,service,looks,body,everything is excellent.another one at 250sgd,service never rush(names i will not disclose)

after the latest horrendous experience with a local FL, i also have stopped patronizing.come on please dont think a smack of english slang can fetch prices higher than PRC,koreans by 3x,5x?

i was shocked when a LOCAL FL (i will not disclose who)told me which local gal is stupid enough to sell herself for below 300sgd.u know how does she look like?old aunty but heavily make up to conceal her age and have schoolgal plaits,claiming later 20s.BUT her service is very gd.BUT FOR 300SGD, i have both excellent SERVICE and looks and dont lie about the age.

I AM TOTALLY DISGUSTED WITH THE HIGH MINDEDNESS OF THE LOCAL FL here.when i say times are tough, its not for me though,its for the general brothers.I can still afford 1k sgd local models,FL but provided they are excellent in ALL departments.

I REPEAT NO RICH BROTHER WHO CAN AFFORD LIKES TO BE A CARROTHEAD.IT IS NOT THE HIGH PRICES THAT MAKE A LOCAL FL SERVICE BETTER.IT IS THE INBORN CHARACTER OF THE LOCAL FL.i have experienced perfect IN ALL DEPARTMENTS from 250,300 to 850sgd local FLs.
just like did the taxi drivers service attitude improve in general when taxi prices go up?there are some very nice taxi drivers though.

i know that some of you may jump and say looks differ.another mans meat is another posion, BUT COMEON, SURELY RUSHING TIME EVEN GOT HALF HOUR LEFT,EARLY 40S DISGUISED TO BE LATE 20S is something too BIG to forgive?!!!
plus at health centres i can get 100sgd for very very gd quality service looks body LOCALS,thats why i question why majority LOCAL FLs i try want to charge such a high price BUT are found lacking in either looks,body service.NOTE ITS MAJORITY NOT ALL

dragonlim85 · #57 20-08-2010, 04:48 PM

Local Fl rates really too high le. I assume the okt's for local FL take a BIGGG cut, like one bro mention, 50% or thereabouts. Have tried local FL's a few times, but now I change my taste to Thais, viets, prc. Anything but local.

After talking to those Thai, Viet, Pinoy girls,I know their agent do not take cuts of 50% so high and they provide hotel and cd in their deal. Local girl pay so much for one hr then still got to pay for room, condum. RTF lagi worse, the girl tend to drag more and even ask me for things. Fed up. I rather bonk other nationality girl, cheaper and most of the time more beautiful. Maybe communication hard la, but bonk is better.

Then some local okts always post bidding for first blood and all. What first blood? they already take the first blood lor. Then we pay like idiots.

The local FL okts earn the most out of all the okts. They get free bonk, easy to communicate with girl, girl can travel by herself, no need worry about hotel and rubber. Just sit back and collect money. so relax and low cost, almost zero cost.

2Guards · #58 20-08-2010, 05:19 PM

How many times have we heard this complaint about high prices for local FLs ? Too many times already.

Look, it's a business. OKTs and the girls will charge as high as possible - just like any business. It's all up to market forces to regulate the price. Writing long letters in SBF will have no effect whatsoever.

So, if you think the girl is worth $500, then go ahead and pay. If not, just ignore it. Eventually, market forces will adjust the price.

Personally, I have paid $500 or more for a girl. So expensive yet I am honest enough to say it was worth it. On the other hand I have paid $150, and was totally dissatisfied (fucked up the OKT for short-selling). Strangely also, I have paid only $100 for a china girl (legal) in Geylang and was totally happy !

#59 20-08-2010, 05:47 PM

Agree with bro Mael, it's not that we want to boycott SG girls. But only to ignore those that charge heavenly prices for earthly girls.

KingCheong · #60 21-08-2010, 12:46 AM

Maybe we need to write harsher FRs for local FLs from now on.
Have you guys ever wondered how almost all the ratings for the FLs are always 6 and above regardless if it is about looks, figure, BJ, FJ, GFE...etc?
I mean so many brudders got complaint against bad service and even misrepresentation of the girls by OKT, so its weird all the FRs n ratings are still so favourable.
Dont you guys think it's time we be really strict about their service and give them the ratings they deserve rather than always 'try to be nice' and close one eye?