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[sinner1234]

Originally Posted by Ichigo_Kurosaki

FOREWORD:

With due respect to all religions, faiths, beliefs, believers and non believers

It is a statement about morality in the subjective sense

This morality is by no means self-evident nor refer to me



Please allow me to soften the above comment.

All religions essentially preaches morality and each religion has its own rites, rituals, ceremonies, cults, beliefs and dogma.

IMHO, most often the root of the issues are the followers when they are misguided and develop a tremendous amount of attachment to their own rites, rituals, faith and dogma as the only means of salvation. Such misguided persons may not have even a trace of morality, a trace of love, compassion and good will towards others and yet remain under the impression that they are religious persons cos they have performed such and such rite or ritual or cos they have full faith in a particular belief. They are actually deluding themselves and missing the nectar of the practice of the true essence of religion.

People with strong attachment to their own faith have the firm belief that the followers of all other organized sectarian religions are non-believers and therefor will never taste salvation. They are fully convinced that to convert others to their religion is a great meritorious deed and hence they apply various coercive methods. With such blind faith, these followers are likely to turn into fanatic fundamentalism leading to controversies, contradictions, violent confrontations and even wars and bloodshed resulting in a tremendous amount of misery in the society wiping away its peace and harmony. Ironically, all this is done in the name of religion.

In short: The greatest common denominator of all religions essentially preaches MORALITY - A true religious life where one lives a moral code of conduct, a happy harmonious healthy, wholesome life, in peace and harmony within oneself and generates nothing but peace and harmony others. A life that is always good for oneself, good for others, and good for the entire human society. A life that protects the weak and against all hideous crime and scams

Totally agree....

Just sharing two "little" examples:

1) One guy came out of his sunday session and went straight into a cab..... to get lovey dovey with a pinay at lucky plaza and head straight to H81..... :S...

2) One lady practise the high stand of... ---I do not lie as i am a "chrxstxxn". yet.... when late for work or do not feel like going to work... "chia MC".......


Please........ MORALITY is to be above all others.....


Ps: I'm not flamming anyone here..not all are bad eggs la.... just sharing my opinion.

Note: I'm not called sinner for nothing yah as i have done my fair bit of misdeed.... :S.........

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

The worst kind is trying to profit using a greater cause for the benefits to all bros as an excuse

I have sin cos I just cannot control but to rub it in

Later, I will go to pray and confess



It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a sin
It's a sin
Every Cais I've ever done
Every Patterns I ever do
Every HC/KTV/HFJ I've ever been
Every Lorongs I'm going to
It's a sin

[sinner1234]

Originally Posted by Ichigo_Kurosaki

The worst kind is trying to profit using a greater cause for the benefits to all bros as an excuse

I have sin cos I just cannot control but to rub it in

Later, I will go to pray and confess

Bro IK,

Hhaha.... indirect arrows all around.......... mght as well add in a profound phrase as your signature to carry the msg?........... greater effect leh ;p


You have another sin act with the sinner....... "hijacking" threads without " positive contribution" to TS's thread......... ;p

[Apocalypse]

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

I have also tried converting her to a Christian which I am. Guess its better to go one step at a time. Letting the Lord do his miracle.
I dont mind for more advises. Coz it really will help. This thread has made me recharged one way or another from some bros MSG.

Thanks.

I have to read your postings a few times before I fully understand what you are saying. these days, there are many people who say that I didn't say that you say that. so must check everything carefully.

Not sure where or what stage your r/s is in? is it over? or you are praying for some miracle? Actually I find the part about you trying to convert her to a Christian, and repeatedly talking about her past appalling. If you can't get your fundamentals right, please don't drag christianity into the topic.

Sunday School Stuff
If this wasn't taught to you on sunday school, let me give you a quick debrief

- All man are sinners and fallen short of the glory of God. so whether she is a whore, or you are a whoremonger, you stand equal before God. That doesn't make you better than her.

- Woman, lift your head. Where are your accusers? Neither do I accuse you. She was a whore, are you not someone who use whore? So why are you accusing her?

- behold you are a new creature and your past is put away If you claim to be a christian, you should be familiar with this verse. Her past is gone, so why are you not accepting it? Jesus never ask anyone to convert and believe him. He simply is, and He show it by actions. He extended kindness and grace to adultress, murderers, all kind of evil people before "converting them". Should you not do the same for them as well?

You
What I understand from what you posted, is that you enjoy being in the center of power, where she is dependent on you. You like to hear and know that she needs you. every time she cries, every time a tear breaks, it gives you a sense of power, that she needs you, and you are in control. Especially you are deciding right now whether she can leave or not. Unconciously or conciously I don't know, but because on what is said, thats the current case.

The Reality
But you are not God, and while you are in the position of power, you don't have enough power to let her draw from you, because you are not getting the power from God. So its man, and not God that turn religion into politics.

In simple terms, its like a circuit, and you are not the battery unfortunately, you are the capacitor. Capacitor burst and explode when they go kuku and try to be the battery.

So if you cannot accept her for who she is, you already had your share of fun with her. so let her go and trust that Someone better will take care of her because you can't. If you can accept her for who she is, then all the best to you.

It doesn't mean there won't be fights, it doesn't means there won't be issue, but its a matter of who you see is in control of the situation.

[Apocalypse]

Originally Posted by sinner1234

Please........ MORALITY is to be above all others.....

Note: I'm not called sinner for nothing yah as i have done my fair bit of misdeed.... :S.........

I don't mind to be behind sometimes, and inspecting the morality actually

apocalypse is the begining of knowledge, and I do not condem your sins. whahahaha

[sinner1234]

Originally Posted by Apocalypse

I don't mind to be behind sometimes, and inspecting the morality actually

apocalypse is the begining of knowledge, and I do not condem your sins. whahahaha

Bro Apocalypse,

Err.... the first statement.... is your call... ;p... enjoy... ;p


Knowledge is power ;p.......... yup.... but on surface ppl said tht....... but deep down inside.... it's all plain to see...


btw.... even though your detailed posts are "heavy"... i do like them... thnx....

errrr.. not "tripod" yah......... i do "shoot" you.. if you hvnt notice.... ;p lmao

[findfren]

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

 You have to bear in mind again that on numerous occasion, I asked her to look forward. Each time she drop tears and hold me.

Have u ever wondered, could it be she is scared to hurt u if she agree readily for a breakup?

I have a neighbour whose wife was a beer lady, he managed to sian her and they got married after 6 years together.

During their 4 years marriage, fights, arguements arose time to time cos husband cant get over her previous job and she too can't forget the hurting words and abuse she had to endure also.

But whenever a fight comes up, wifey will always be the one to give in [ i don't understand why is it so till now ] and my friend keep on thinking tat the wife cant live without him.

Till 1 day, the fight was so bad until flower pots are all over the corridoor, windows chui, wife head got blood, husband arms slashed, and both of em was having a confrontation on the corridoor.

angry husband: After all this years, you say i don't treat u gd?

Wifey: NBCB, u jiak ba eng eng then insult me and wack me, u call tat treating me well?

Angry husband: Then limpeh ask u 1 thing,why the fuck are u still here.

Wifey: Ok, then wat the fuck u wan now!!

Angry husband: Lets divorce!!

Wifey: Ok, divorce then divorce! Its not as if i cant live without u!

angry husband: Are u sure!! ( having 2nd tots liao )

Wifey: 是的,没有你我日子照过, 我一直没离开你就怕我伤到你的心因为我知道你是个软弱的人,现在我终于能脱离苦海了...

Angry husband: break down in tears and realised finally tat he is the one who cant let go and all the while he think that he is the stronger one but in fact he is actually the weaker one .

So hopefully this thread starter won't be like my neighbour and get things wrong.

[Apocalypse]

Originally Posted by sinner1234

Bro Apocalypse,

Err.... the first statement.... is your call... ;p... enjoy... ;p


Knowledge is power ;p.......... yup.... but on surface ppl said tht....... but deep down inside.... it's all plain to see...


btw.... even though your detailed posts are "heavy"... i do like them... thnx....

errrr.. not "tripod" yah......... i do "shoot" you.. if you hvnt notice.... ;p lmao

morality is usually protrayed as a goddess in myth and mythology mah.

I rather have Venus to be on top of me, and I'm standing behind Morality, bonking them looking at Justice, covering her eyes.

[LoveAffair]

Don't understand the big fuss when trying to convert her when she wants a cross from me. And not to forget, asking me to bring her to church. I guessed some bros misread what I meant and assumption is unfortunately commonly adopted. This thread is never about religion and I don't see any reasons why being a Christian can't hook up escort services. Sorry to be blunt but that is seriously ridiculous.

I'm not a pastor(even them too, sin) I'm not Mr Holy. I don't go to church anymore but I still pray and give thanks. I supposed someone here meant being a Christian can't do alot of things. Which is quite tough and rare to find in the modern world.

I have to reiterate that I'm no holy. I don't force someone to convert to my religion at al which some of u assumed. She wanted me to go to church with her when shes not even a Christian means something to me. It might be God calling? Anyway, no point debating on this topic anymore. This thread wasn't even about Religion in the first place. I only stated converting her to a Christian and it sparks much debate over it. Some even sound pissed.

I still wished to thank some who comfort me over PM. Be it long or short PM msges. And again, some of our bros messages. I don't blame some crude remarks which I already expected from the very beginning when I decided to post in this forum. So be it positive or negative be it enlightening or plainly ridiculous comments, I will still respect each individual remarks/replies.

[LazyCat]

Dear TS,

I went through all your posts, all I can say is... they are very emotional.

In the end, you have to decide, like some of the more senior bros here said:

Option 1: You Accept Her

- then you have to forgive her and move on from there.
- you will bound to have quarrels, but please don't use the excuse of her past as a
point for the quarrels, as it will make you look damn petty and without honor, integrity
or decency.
- you will also have to accept her for what she was, what she is now and what she
might be in the future.
- that's the price you have to pay.. Not money but the baggage that goes into this
relationship.

Option 2: You can't accept her

- then let her go.
- It is eating you up inside.. the longer you drag it
- It is also not fair for either party.

In the end, it is YOU who have to decide. You should not use the fact that you have sex with her as a argument that you need to be responsible for her. It takes 2 hands to clap, remember that.

Bottomline: If you can lift it up.... Make sure you can put it down...

Just my 2 cents worth.

Cheers.

[Gaofar]

Sigh... This is going to be a long one from me...

I was.. sort of previously like you.. Knew an FL, went "Ga-Ga" over her, understand that she is still doing her job while having a r/s with me.. Those moments are tearingly painful man.. Many a times I cried and tried to get over her but seriously failed.. Those are really some of my "darkess" moments in my life.. I am not making up this story as there is one particular bro here knows full well of this story of mine.. ()

I share your feelings bro LA. I fully understand what you are going through and I agree that it's a path not taken by many. Guess it's only meant for bros who are "weak" in the heart type one lah..

Time to strengthen up that heart of yours.. Fast-forward of my story: today I am no longer with her as I made her go back to her country. She surrendered herself to the police and was made to go to jail in Singapore here for a month, as she is an over-stayer, before repatriation back to her country. There was a moment of time that I thought that I will have to migrate to that country to be with her, but soon I realised that I will simply not be able to take her for what she is and forget her past (especially when I was ALONG WITH her past...), and so I cut off all communication with her and leave her there..

Bro LA, as what many had said over here numerous times: it's really a matter of whether you can accept her or not for what she is. I am not being judgemental or persuading you to do otherwise, but there are indeed successful stories of such r/s together and TRUST and FAITH plays a big part in it. Adding words of religion to your statement would make many people sees as you are making excuse. Tell that to anyone of your story and include the religion part and you will have mere mortals thinking in their head: "that's crap..". That's only human so don't be too "engrossed" over what others responded in that aspect.

Dude, snap out of it and I'm sure, somehow or rather, there is actually a clear thought of what you exactly want to do. Don't be clouded by other influences. Life carries on bro...

Cheers and regards.

[LoveAffair]

Bro. I have no Points for u. I would have done so if I have the power. Cheers

[LouisVuiitton]

Give her a chance lah brother of not moved on don't look back !

[Asia1]

my simple suggestion:

after being your gf officially, she still with escort?

if no, she stopped and want to settle down with you, give her a chance

if yes until you confront her, then give her a pass (she may back to do it again in the future)

[zeebji]

This reply is a stark reminder to you that once a whore, always a whore. He's lucky he didnt marry this girl.

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

This is one amazing kind soul story that touches my heart.
I am not leaving his nick because of privacy reason as he uses PM. Here goes :

I use to have a gf that is a fl here. A chinese fl. And like all the bro here say dont trust them. And so i
Did. But in the end, after she left, i found her last diary that she wrote and realise how much i have hurt her and she love me much to change and all this while i was a jurk. I was so sad that i took the firsy flight with a wedding ring to see her. And by the time i
Propose to her, she say why i come so late. She already is someone mistress and she cannot bear to leave him cos he give her a lot of money.

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My reply : Thanks alot bro. This is one hell of the best I got so far. Very appreciate.