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[lament]

sorry 4 the late reply cos i hardly online this days .............

Originally Posted by Osama

Exit singapore and come back again, usually to a neighbouring country.

Pros:
Under NORMAL circumstances, a person who wants to visit SG will be given min 3 days social visit pass. Thus it's almost a sure way to get at least 3 more days. Also you will not be liable for the person's action in SG.

Cons:
If the situation is abnormal, then you would have a big problem. Should you bring the person out of SG, and when upon return the person is refused entry due to some reason. The person is basically stuck there. Somehow, you would have to get whatever belongings or stuff he has over to the country he is stuck in and from there he goes back home.

this days the chances of returning to singapore via JB is tougher than before. I know of many who get refuse entry to Singapore and ask to return to JB with a big "W2" stamp. this is not limited to those who come often but to 1st-timers in Sillypore. this route was misused by the PRC on the "Xin-Ma-Tai" trail in the past.

A better exit is via the airport....pay the price and u get at least 1 week in the worst case....

Originally Posted by Osama

Applying for an extension at SIR (Lavender)

What happens if the person gets caught doing something bad in SG.
If you sponsor the lady and she is caught during a raid, you will also be charged in court. It could lead to a jail term and fine.
The implication is minimal, meaning that if she's caught working without a valid working permit, she will get deported back, and you may bare the expatriate fees if she does not have any money.

I think not so serious unless u make a living out of doing extension lor .... in the name of love we man do silly things right ....

Originally Posted by Osama

Her address in sg??
Plus point if she is staying with you.

It doesn't matter if it's only for a short time visit.

Her occupation, education.

Declare her working in decent job as in earning good, like HR exec but must be reasonable.... dun declare working as waitress....

What's my relationship with her??

Bf, a plus point

But ICA will grill both of you the relationship, what makes the sudden change of local sponsor, etc... Just be prepared for these answers.

If both of you are in serious relationship, you may input as BGR relationship, supported with photos.

Other points to take note.

How the officer decide on whether to extend the visa.

1) The reason of staying long period in SG (she is here a tourist visa, y will ppl need more than 14 days to tour around SG??)

2) The reason y this ger is always in SG (same as point 1 n y will a ger visit SG so many times?)

3) Whether she has the money to herself in SG (staying in SG is not cheap)

4) Other factors

Be prepared to attend interview

Originally Posted by Osama

Her address in sg??
Her occupation, education.
What's my relationship with her??
But ICA will grill both of you the relationship, what makes the sudden change of local sponsor, etc... Just be prepared for these answers.
If both of you are in serious relationship, you may input as BGR relationship, supported with photos.
Other points to take note.

I think if u put her as working ...u get grilled even more leh ....think of it if u taking a salary from a job how can u afford to take a long holiday every other month ........

Originally Posted by Osama

How the officer decide on whether to extend the visa.

1) The reason of staying long period in SG (she is here a tourist visa, y will ppl need more than 14 days to tour around SG??)

2) The reason y this ger is always in SG (same as point 1 n y will a ger visit SG so many times?)

3) Whether she has the money to herself in SG (staying in SG is not cheap)

4) Other factors

Be prepared to attend interview

Originally Posted by Osama

How the officer decide on whether to extend the visa.

in one word that sums it all "Subject to Approval" i think its more to do with their mood lah .....

I remember once I bought my wife after we file for our notice of marriage for extension. the officer say she will give me 2 weeks at the most but she say my wife cannot go back to ICA for extension until at least 6 weeks before the marriage.I ask her so if prior to that where should i go for extension and her reply was "thats not my problem" which means she is obviously sprouting crap and I ask her to return my form cos my wife visa will only expire the following week. I went back the following week and got her extended for 30days.

She went back subsequently and back 3weeks prior to our ROM and the idiotic officer at the airport only give her 2weeks. So where is their standard?

Originally Posted by Osama

"As I mentioned to u, y go into all these shit??? Unless u telling me, she is your wife to be, just like our Lament..... then I lan lan."

Think of it as helping a friend?? Fortunately, I only have 1 such friend??

i agree with namelo why go through the wall for them unless u prepared to marry her ...

are they worth it end of the day ..... they are here to maximise their earning potentials ...... they leech on to a guy so that you help them do silly things ...

heard u got 2 weeks for her and so thats good news but then if u can nothing for her ....she wouldn't be seeing u again cos they look upon u as unlucky and they move on to another guy .....think again ......

Originally Posted by Osama

Can we fall back on the other plan when 1 fail?? I mean, for e.g I go SIR, application not approved, I then bring the person to JB?? Will they have like a record of the applications I made??

Is there anything that these "agents" know that we don't?? That's why they are getting paid?? e.g

they know what to say when the ICA officer ask them, who the gal is...what is she doing here...

where she live and things like that. Or they know what's the best time to enter JB...come back SG....

beware if the ger u bring is 1 who have been caught and change passport before ....cos if found out ...the shit u get is even bigger than u can imagine ...

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by lament

this route was misused by the PRC on the "Xin-Ma-Tai" trail in the past.

Not only by PRC.... it is misused by a lot of others.

Originally Posted by lament

i agree with namelo why go through the wall for them unless u prepared to marry her ...

are they worth it end of the day ..... they are here to maximise their earning potentials ...... they leech on to a guy so that you help them do silly things ...

Finally, u have grown up.

[Rof|maoxz]

Originally Posted by Osama

"This is the LAST time I'm going to extend her stay here. After 2 wks, don't came back and ask for another extension!! Make sure she goes back and stay longer this time round. If she still wants to comes back again in 2 wks or so. Again she will be getting 1 week and no more extension."

I then thanked him from the bottom of my heart and left!!


So this is it. My "FR". Again thanks to all the senior bros who helped me!! Think it's going to be a LONG while before I try a "stunt" like this again!!

All I can say is that you do have a stroke of luck. Cherish the precious moment with her and be careful of what she do.

[Rof|maoxz]

Originally Posted by naemlo

Not only by PRC.... it is misused by a lot of others.

Another hotspot route.....HKG.

[bonoedge]

Originally Posted by lament

i agree with namelo why go through the wall for them unless u prepared to marry her ...

are they worth it end of the day ..... they are here to maximise their earning potentials ...... they leech on to a guy so that you help them do silly things ...

...

bro,u mean the girl willing to marry him after going through all these for her? i dont tink bro osama tinking of that also...

he is juz in the process of winning the girl's heart...

[dan01]

i'd appreciate if any bro here can idecipher this sentence (SMS) for me.

thank you.

ai vay nhan tin k hieu

[Sha_Gua75]

Originally Posted by dan01

i'd appreciate if any bro here can idecipher this sentence (SMS) for me.

thank you.

ai vay nhan tin k hieu

maybe it mean this : who? you sms i dont understand ?

[dan01]

sha gua> haha, thanks for the translation.

[Sha_Gua75]

Originally Posted by dan01

sha gua> haha, thanks for the translation.

np.....

ai vay nhan tin k hieu

ai vay = Who?

Nhan tin = message

K Hieu = Dont understand


Roughly like that

[dan01]

thanks SG.

my sent VN text msg must be rubbish.

[dan01]

i am sorry to bring up this thread again.

just being curious, could you generalise the period of time where they would stay and work for over here in SG? thanks.

[Leeson]

Originally Posted by dan01

i am sorry to bring up this thread again.

just being curious, could you generalise the period of time where they would stay and work for over here in SG? thanks.

errr, wad are you really asking?

[dan01]

i am sorry. how long would those WL working stint last? i mean generally how long does a typical WL tour of duty last.

i understand the new visa requirements and all so perhaps we can use the one before that as a study case.

thanks.

[Leeson]

Originally Posted by dan01

i am sorry. how long would those WL working stint last? i mean generally how long does a typical WL tour of duty last.

i understand the new visa requirements and all so perhaps we can use the one before that as a study case.

thanks.

it depends on how many days of visa they get when they come in...
generally nowadays is 7 days or 2 weeks...
then they try to extend so that they can stay up to a month...
go back for a break and come back again after one month...

[dan01]

so, it's like endless visa applications if they decide to stay longer for monetary or whatever reason.

thanks for the input.