Visa runs in Thailand still possible ?

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

I think sg is still a better place to work n live since job and home is secure here. As long as you willing to work any job in sg as a sgreans you still can survive.

But because of overseas commitment, things tend to get complicated.

Many a times, we tend to misinterpret tirak relationship as a form of commitment, when actually it is not. Complications always arise.

Originally Posted by pussyman72

whether to move a step forward or move backward. it depend on the person whether he is willing to give up what he have n move over there.

Singapore is still better then thailand but it also depend one self whether he wants this kind of life style or he prefer the life style in thailand. saying so thailand is not really a good place to stay if u dont have money.

No money no talk. so is very hard to said. i have friends who stay there n live comfortable there so it depend what we want at the end of the day.

Well, if no money, Thailand is not really a good place. But if have money, there will be a lot of other alternatives better than Thailand. Like Canada, Australia

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[pussyman72]

Originally Posted by yinyang

We maybe seduced by things thai (for whatever reasons), but let's get real: there's a universe apart from being a visitor and (ordinary) resident.

No offense intended, and excuse my trespass here

bro YY i do agree with you. many pple who have just visited thailand or come to thailand as a vistor to have fun thinks that it a good place to stay in. nice pple, less stress, etc.....

They forget coming to thailand to tour and having fun it diff then staying in thailand and work there.

It not so simple as it is. i did not stay in thailand that long like bro vmtech or bro sc but i myself also have a taste of it in thailand n live together with pple there for a few times whether be it in the villiage or in the city.

Village have a diff way of living then living in city but still all voice down to money.

not many pple understand this. I seen pple who wanted to go thailand just bcos they think the place is nice to stay in n have fun. some actually bcos of teerakship n went to thailand to stay with them.

i cannot said they are wrong but 1 should think whether is it a good choice of moving over n give up a good job in sgp to get a lower paying job in thailand.

be frank i cant. i cannot said im very good or know thailand very well but i seen and expouse myself with them for quite awhile for the last 13 yrs. it never easy to live in thailand when you have no money or even you have 10k, 20k or 30k thinking to move over there to open a small business unless you are prepare to lose it all.

One should ask themself this question are they prepare to lose everything after staying 1 to 2 yrs in thailand if something happen example love, money.

most pple wants to stay in thailand mostly have 2 reason. love or fun.

[Peter_North]

Originally Posted by pussyman72

u will own 49% yes but i not really sure u should even let ur teerak have the 51%.

there is many ways in doing it ^^. there is many loop holes in thailand lol which may still works.

I'm familiar with the ways. But it's an even greater hassle.

[Peter_North]

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

So... I register a company, 51% goes to Thai, remaining 49% I get 6 Singaporeans relatives as share holders? The company can don't make money? Like Soho?

So even if wife don't make 40k she still can declare 40kbaht a month so end of yr pay tax lar. But how much is the tax?

Who can guarantee a company will make money ? But the point is what is the point of having a company ? Putting 2 million baht to get a work permit is not worthwhile, if all that you want is to stay in Thailand.

Your interest in Thailand is still pretty remote. When you're really serious as in you consider yourself as not having any of those opportunity cost in leaving Singapore, then we can get into serious in depth discussions about the business and immigration laws in Thailand.

[pussyman72]

Originally Posted by Peter_North

I'm familiar with the ways. But it's an even greater hassle.

yea i can see u do ur homework heheheh yes it indeed a great hassle. i actually went to the lawyer once to check on this, my friend who stay there for 10yrs actually brought me to his lawyer to check on this.

[pussyman72]

Originally Posted by Peter_North

Putting 2 million baht to get a work permit is not worthwhile, if all that you want is to stay in Thailand.

yea do agree with u peter. with 2m at least u can save it and do investment rather then throw money there n dont see anything..... unless very rich 80k is nothing to the person then i nothing to said lol

else for a average joe having 80k is alot n it not ez to save 80k.

i have a senior who took out 20k and move to vietnam to do his small business, now he had to travel to thailand n vietnam to run his business and he stay in thailand with his wife.

[Peter_North]

Originally Posted by pussyman72

yea i can see u do ur homework heheheh yes it indeed a great hassle. i actually went to the lawyer once to check on this, my friend who stay there for 10yrs actually brought me to his lawyer to check on this.

I'm not exactly a newbie in Bangkok. But like somebody mentioned, if the shiokness starts in bed, then it should end just there. It's not worth settling there just for that shiokness.

I'm more interested in the Northern mountains. So BKK will be a transit for me for the time being. I'm in a good position in the sense that I don't have any opportunity cost leaving Singapore, as in a high salary or career prospects.

[yinyang]

Originally Posted by pussyman72

..as a vistor to have fun thinks that it a good place to stay in. nice pple, less stress, etc.....
...not many pple understand this. I seen pple who wanted to go thailand just bcos they think the place is nice to stay in n have fun. some actually bcos of teerakship n went to thailand to stay with them. i cannot said they are wrong but 1 should think whether is it a good choice of moving over n give up a good job in sgp to get a lower paying job in thailand. be frank i cant.
..One should ask themself this question are they prepare to lose everything after staying 1 to 2 yrs in thailand if something happen example love, money.

Reality check. Even many farangs "overstayed" their hols (shacked up with gals) and opted for easy teaching jobs (asians forget it, even if you are accredited as thais prefer native speakers) have to supplement their income by other sources. Changes to life style ie living like locals (as bro vmtech managed to get by <bt15k).

And yes, I can vouch for some quoted salary ranges here by what we pay for our staff in our associate (joint venture, some more) companies bkk.

Won't escape us that many thais are eking out a hard living at every street corner. Even labour's exported (and I'm not referring to just male hard hats, hehe).

Personal choice indeed, if you got what it takes -money to spare (or marry well!) with planned decisions, who are we to judge here? But naivete's free, be my guest

[Peter_North]

It's inevitable that the thread has derailed from "how should" to "why should" ? As soon as it goes into "why should" mode, it becomes an issue of values.

Different people have different reasons for wanting to settle down in Thailand. We will take each of them at face value; ultimately they're answerable to themselves, not us.

A person may express his enthusiasm about Thailand, but the same person may never move to Thailand because of the opportunity cost of a high salary in Singapore. If he sees a good income as more important than his enthusiasm about Thailand, this person will stay put in Singapore. This, we don't even have to tell him. It's all about prioritizing one's values. On the other hand, a person who is truly in love with Thailand will look upon his high salary in Singapore as "shackles" that restrain him from pursuing freedom.

Likewise, if a person is bewitched by the charm of a particular Tirak in Thailand, it's no point trying to poke sense into his hormone filled brain. Such a person will never see eye to eye with another whose entire life is about paying for sex. Both will scorn at each other. One sees the other as naive; the other will say it's sour grapes. As long as they know they're only answerable to themselves, making a wrong judgment is a process of life that it's worth going through at times. Sometimes we spread the "gospel" not because we care; we do it to self-justify so that the more people believe in us the more we feel we made the right decision in the way we live our life.

The point I'm trying to make is once we've decided on a certain course to take, let's just put aside the wisdom or folly at arriving at that particular course. Let's us just concentrate on the "how should" without getting personal into a person's decision-making process.

[vmtech]

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

Hello Bros,

I have some questions, like to hear from Bros who married Thai.
My GF age 24 with Thai Uni Degree and currently working as an accountant in Bangkok. We are planning to get marry end of this year maybe if all goes well.

1. ROM in Thai or Sg better? or same?
2. After ROM, the next day I can straight away apply sg PR for her? I know for sure can apply spouse visa.
3. After ROM, am I eligible to apply to be Thai PR?
4. Is it a must to be PR first then become Citizen?
5. Will her education help her get PR or Citizenship faster?

Thanks.

your answers in red


1. ROM in Thai or Sg better? or same? - same
2. After ROM, the next day I can straight away apply sg PR for her? I know for sure can apply spouse visa. -yes, but subject to approval as usual
3. After ROM, am I eligible to apply to be Thai PR? - No
4. Is it a must to be PR first then become Citizen? - Yes
5. Will her education help her get PR or Citizenship faster? - Yes

[vmtech]

Originally Posted by Norikasan55

1. ROM in Thai or Sg better? or same? - same

1.1 I think to marry in Thailand the guy must stay in Thai for 5-7 days right before he can file to marriage? (Also must have few K in thai bank.

1.2 I read ROM website but not much info. Does this rule apply to sg also?
I know can apply online for ROM Q but they never say much.

2.1 Spouse visa apply take how long?

3. After ROM, am I eligible to apply to be Thai PR? - No
This is tough, then I need more info on how to be PR.

3.1 Singaporean can hold PR of other country right if I read correctly?

1.1: 3 days can liao, i married my girl in Bangkok too. i landed on a saturday and i signed the papers on a monday. and they(thai side & sg emb) didnt ask me for any things besides the checklist needed for the avidavitt. bank statement is not in that list.
getting marriage is very easy, just get the documents ready in the checklist given by the sg emb, bring them to sg emb to exchange for a avidavitt (freedom to marry). Den bring that avidavit to get translated and stamped by the MFA in thailand. after that , you may proceed to the district office to get married.
It's possible to get eveyrthing done in 1 day if u want to. i went emb in the morning and i got married at 5pm. after u get your cert, you might wanna have it translated and stamped again by the sg embassy so you can use it in singapore.

thai girl side very simple, just bring along her passport, tabian-baan and ic, that;s all.

1.2: thai bank account applies when u are applying for marriage visa etc where you need to show that the $ was wired from your home country to your thai account more den 3 months ago.

3: To qualify for PR, you need to be staying CONSECUTIVELY for 3 years on a appropriate visa (in this case, they mean marriage visa, business visa or non-immigrant O visa, not tourist visas)

3.1: yes

[Peter_North]

Originally Posted by vmtech

1.1: 3 days can liao, i married my girl in Bangkok too.

Bro VM, I thought your gal Kon Pharmaa ?

[vmtech]

Originally Posted by Peter_North

Bro VM, I thought your gal Kon Pharmaa ?

yup, kon parma lor, she also have to get a avidavitt from myanmar emb. same way as me cuz she also foreigner

[vmtech]

....getting marriage is very easy, just get the documents ready in the checklist given by the sg emb, bring them to sg emb to exchange for a avidavitt (freedom to marry).
So.. first- After touch down thailand, I go SG emb to get the checklist, sign and endorse by SG emb? Or this avidavitt can be done in sg?
if you can find a sg emb in singapore.. by all means do so.. LOL

Den bring that avidavit to get translated and stamped by the MFA in thailand.
Which authority to translate it? The MFA is the Ministry of Foreign Affair of Thailand?
yes

... after u get your cert, you might wanna have it translated and stamped again by the sg embassy so you can use it in singapore.
So i presume the same authority can translate again?

yups


thai girl side very simple, just bring along her passport, tabian-baan and ic, that;s all.

1.2: So for thai to get spouse visa to come sg stay long term no need bank right?
yes


3: This part I don't get it... to be PR must stay 3 years, so meaning my wife got to stay SG for 3 years using the spouse visa? Like that meaning after ROM i cannot apply PR liao but visa first. But also meaning she cannot work SG since she on visa... or I can apply work permit for my spouse under that visa?

oh sorry, i was actually refering to getting a thai PR, sg pr is see heng suay 1 la, some can get after few mth after marriage, some give birth baby liao still on LTSVP

[vmtech]

as for the cheklist, dont waste ur trip down, you can get it by emailing them.

anyway i have the list, just print this out..



CNC cert costs u $45 and 2 weeks to take it.

Marriage Search records takes you 1 working day and $35, done online. self collect at ROM.

MOM declaration takes 2 weeks also.

Your emplyment letter is also needed.

that's all ! all these to exchange for an avidavitt. Bring along ur wifey to the embassy too