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Old 09-06-2012, 11:33 AM
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Re: FR on La Belle

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Well you convinced me to give it a try. Nataree tends to be very pump and finish standard service. If they provide very good looking girls and service too then i'll definitely have a look.

La Defense also has really nice rooms and I had a very attractive SYT there with big implant tits. Very standard service though.
Nowadays, hardly any massage given and with a intention of just shower & bonking only unless one go to a TMP with no hanky panky.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:47 AM
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Nowadays, hardly any massage given and with a intention of just shower & bonking only unless one go to a TMP with no hanky panky.
Which is why I rarely or don't tip at all anymore. If they are going to lower service standards then I will be a tight ass with the money. Supply and demand. From what i've seen there's nothing wrong with the supply it's just that attitudes need readjusting.

The prices at agogos are an example of how bad attitudes and runaway price inflation has become absurd. We should do everything possible, since we control the money tap from a consumer standpoint, to prevent this from happening to our beloved MPs.

Maybe a bro here can write a masters thesis on how the price of commodities has inflationary impact on the relative cost of whores at venues like agogos and the resulting attitudes have become poorer as a result. You might even get published in Freakonomics .
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Which is why I rarely or don't tip at all anymore. If they are going to lower service standards then I will be a tight ass with the money. Supply and demand. From what i've seen there's nothing wrong with the supply it's just that attitudes need readjusting.

The prices at agogos are an example of how bad attitudes and runaway price inflation has become absurd. We should do everything possible, since we control the money tap from a consumer standpoint, to prevent this from happening to our beloved MPs.

Maybe a bro here can write a masters thesis on how the price of commodities has inflationary impact on the relative cost of whores at venues like agogos and the resulting attitudes have become poorer as a result. You might even get published in Freakonomics .
True, that why I sedom go to MP or GoGo Bars anymore unless accompany my friends. This old man like to have a casual drinks, foods and listen to live band music in the club.
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Old 09-06-2012, 03:38 PM
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The prices at agogos are an example of how bad attitudes and runaway price inflation has become absurd. We should do everything possible, since we control the money tap from a consumer standpoint, to prevent this from happening to our beloved MPs.

Maybe a bro here can write a masters thesis on how the price of commodities has inflationary impact on the relative cost of whores at venues like agogos and the resulting attitudes have become poorer as a result. You might even get published in Freakonomics .
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True, that why I sedom go to MP or GoGo Bars anymore unless accompany my friends. This old man like to have a casual drinks, foods and listen to live band music in the club.
Price goes up.
Quality and Service comes down.
This is happening just about anywhere in the world.
Even here in Changping, Dongguan.

According to my customer feedback over the years.
Most are willing to pay more if they can get a certain quality and service level.

Here's the interesting part.
The price of ST/LT is pretty much "fixed" according to the so called market rate.
The human physcology reacts differently when we phrase a statement differently even with the same output.
In this case money.

Eg. The standard question that most mongerers will ask is, "How much is LT?".
Agogo Bar girl will answer, "THB4000 ka."
As if it's a god given right to demand such a rate.

Or you can phrase your question this way and offer a price that you can afford without asking the price first.
Assuming you've already done a research on the market price.
"I'll give you THB4000 plus tips for LT provided you can perform to my preferred service level with the option of repeating LT for 1 or 2 more days."

It's all about incentive my friend.
Pay over inflated market rate to get lousy or sub-standard service.
Or offer a price with good incentive package to get better service since you're already prepared to pay over inflated market rate.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:00 AM
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Re: FR on La Belle

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.....Maybe a bro here can write a masters thesis on how the price of commodities has inflationary impact on the relative cost of whores at venues like agogos and the resulting attitudes have become poorer as a result. You might even get published in Freakonomics .
No masters thesis here, but here is my simple BKK chionging matrix between the money you spend and the level of satisfaction you receive:



Please keep in mind that the matrix is based on GENERAL assessments and assumptions and did not include standard deviations (experiences that are above or below "average") and variances (your look, negotiation skills, etc.)

According to the Six Sigma methodology. if you set out to chiong and achieved 68% of quality (cost and satisfaction in this case,) you are chionging at 1 Sigma. (Or 32% of the time you got chopped or not happy with the experience.)

As you put more time and efforts into improving your processes, you might go to 6 Sigma, and achieve 99.9997% of quality (or a satisfied man.) Unless you are building an airplane, few processes go to 6 Sigma

Bottom line: Do your home work and improve your chance of satisfaction
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Re: FR on La Belle

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La Belle offered girls that are more OL looking, yet look young and sweet enough to appeal to those who like SYT. I was pleasantly surprised by the rooms, it certain is a notch above other places like Emanuelle and Poisedon. Of course the price is slightly more on the expensive side, but you can still find models from 2900-3900bht that I would rate at least a 8 on the looks scale.

I had a good time with a new girl there, model price was 3300bht. First day at work and provided excellent GFE. Service definitely will not lose to Nataree. they had quite few lookers at the 3900bht range, but was taken up while I was deciding. Best to go between 4-6pm.
Hello Brudder,

La Belle got soapy on matress like Nataree?

Thank you brudder.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:45 AM
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I was inspired yesterday (it's 2:00am as i'm typing this up just got back from watching Prometheus) by atoll's report to go check out La Belle. LB is conveniently located 3 MR stops from where i'm based at. If any bros reading this have never been there before you stop at Petch mrt station and exit at 1 (Asoke-Dindang Rd) and then walk left all the way down past the car dealership. It's basically down the main road which is parallel to the infamous KP 7 backroad. You can cut across restaurant lots to get to KP7 if you want to in the evening.

La Belle

Anyways, I dropped by La Belle at around 3:30pm. I was lucky that it didn't start raining yet since there were only like 8 girls on the couches. I saw some Koreans or Japanese sitting inside drinking. I saw a bunch of mercedes parked outside so it looked like the hi-so thais were having a get together here or maybe it was all the owner's cars or something. This place looks very nice inside but it has the same problem Colonze has..there's a shitload of papa/mamasans standing around annoying you. There should be a rule..the number of host personnel should never outnumber the actual MP girls. Nataree has the right idea with this aspect of their business. Another thing that annoyed me about this place is that they have these big pillars that block your line of sight on one half of the viewing area in the lounge. It's really stupid design.

There were only about 3-4 S (2700) girls, a few Q (3300) that were quickly taken away, and a few P(3900). From where I was sitting one P on the far right looked quite hideous. She had white skin, big boobs, but her face...jesus. It looked like she had way too much plastic surgery or something. I'm originally from California so I know bad plastic surgery when I see it. I swear i'm not making this up I can't believe such a high tier girl would have a weird looking face like that. Go see for yourself you can't miss her, she's really white skinned but with a really strange looking face. One of the Ps sitting beside her looked quite nice though, almost like a Thai soap star or flashy club girl in RCA but the P tier is 3900. I just couldn't justify it. So, I decided to move on. The mamasan sitting with me gave me a very dirty look when I did my kap koon kap and left. Bitch.

Well, I had an annoying "itch" now that I had to relieve and I wanted to try out my new sagami condoms. So I dropped by Suk. Soi 24 and visited the teen massages. Last time I tried Mango and received pretty good service there but the looks were pretty subpar. So, I decided to try a random one ..Pink massage.

Pink Massage

I never read any reviews of this place on this forum or I may have missed it and even in the farang white man sites they don't mention this place much either. This place is extremely jap orientated since the thai girl at the counter immediately starting jabbering to me in Japanese pointing at the menu. I was honestly expecting to just walk in and see the girls and walk out. I asked to see their lineup in person and about 7 girls came in and wai'ed me pleasantly.

To my surprise 2 girls were quite tall and very curvy. *Ding* *Ding* we have a winner. One girl was tall with sexy legs and I almost chose her but her face wasn't as good as one of the last one who walked in who happened to have a better looking face, sexy body, and nice legs. She also had very white skin although that's not a big priority for me.

Name: Yo
Body: 7 I really want to give her an 8 because she had creamy white skin, very tight body with no unsightly marks, and smooth toned legs but the tits..
Tits: 7.5 very slutty looking implants. She reminded me of that KP 7 girl I took home last week. Alas, I can't really give fake tits an 8+. They were large and fun to play with though. Especially from behind. Her body was very porn star looking.
Sex: 6 It was just alright. She seemed to get naturally wet which is nice or she did the magic lotion trick. She said lots of kinky things like "fuck me harder" "cum in me baby" etc.. and other dirty porn girl things that you usually see in U.S. porn which I thought was very interesting. This girl either watches a lot of porn or was coached in some ang mo establishment before. I asked her about it later..
Overall: 7.

Damage: 600b oil 1.5 hour + 1500 = 2100 total. Felt satisfied.

It sounds like I rather enjoyed myself here. I did to some degree but there are some things I didn't like. I don't know if it's the norm here but she was trying to coax me into a 2nd shot with an extra charge after we were cuddling and talking about stuff. However, she made up for this by being super friendly, flirty, and playful in the room from the start. Her attitude was really quite sweet and accommodating. She's also somewhat smart based on some of her responses and english vocab she used. She didn't hold back anything with tongue kissing or foreplay either. I don't know if charging extra for 2nd shots is normal for Pink massage. Since it's a Jap place I think it's SOP here. She could have just been trying to b.s. me though. Whatever though I still enjoyed this session.

They also charge 20 B for water when mango doesn't. I rarely do 2nd shots anyways since I tend to lose interest real fast after I cum but not having it as a possible free option annoyed me regardless. I hate dickering over pay options like that so it did detract a bit from the overall experience. Oh well. I may see her again though just because that body type is quite kinky..although the KP 7 girl had a similar body type.

That's all for today. Tomorrow I may drop by Poseidon and see what the model lounge looks like now and how it compares with La Belle. One of the hottest girls I ever had sex with way back in 2005 was in Poseidon's model lounge so I have good memories of that place. She looked like a Korean pop star and had a sweet personality.

Then sometime next week i'll hit up Amsterdam since people always say the mid-hi end girls here are nice looking.

Or maybe I will finally visit the Lord...haha just kidding.

Edit: Forgot one more thing. Two thumbs up on sagami condoms. They really do feel close to bareback plus no condom odor.

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Re: FR on La Belle

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No masters thesis here, but here is my simple BKK chionging matrix between the money you spend and the level of satisfaction you receive:


That's an interesting chart. Pretty close to reality I think. Although from what my clubbing thai buddies have told me in the past picking up girls for ONS have their own headaches and sometimes they are playing the long game.

One thing that always puzzled me is gentleman's clubs. I just can't get into paying girls to pretend to enjoy my company in a fake social atmosphere. Yes, some of the girls look very high standard but woo'ing a girl to have the privilege to pay her for sex is just...wrong in my book. For me the enjoyment of that would be rock bottom.

I liked how PCC ranks very high in satisfaction though.
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Btw, any bros here bring your own condoms into a MP and do the girls let you use them? I have some Sagami condoms that are a lot better feeling than the durex and wanted to try them out.
Of cos you can. if it is those electric vibrating condoms you may have to just ask him but I am sure she will be thrilled to try vibrating condoms

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One more good thing about La Belle/Monalisa - easy to get to - it's pink sign can be seen once outside the MRT station (Petchburi)
Monalisa has less business during late hours cos cheongsters cheong gals on streets around Siam Hotel area
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No masters thesis here, but here is my simple BKK chionging matrix between the money you spend and the level of satisfaction you receive:

Haha, that's a good one. Simple and explains a lot. No need to overanalyse and no need masters thesis.
Agree that FL(like Thermae) , ONS has above average satisfaction and value for money but don't agree that PCC has highest satisfaction. You should be awarded a Doctorate for your effort
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.....You should be awarded a Doctorate for your effort
Hummm......Doctor Soopafly.....I like that
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.....One thing that always puzzled me is gentleman's clubs. I just can't get into paying girls to pretend to enjoy my company in a fake social atmosphere. Yes, some of the girls look very high standard but woo'ing a girl to have the privilege to pay her for sex is just...wrong in my book. For me the enjoyment of that would be rock bottom...
I think some people enjoy the chase and look for a big payout someday. Our brains are wired differently, which makes the world interesting

For average parachuting chiongsters, stick with places around the center of the chart. For those who are willing to do some research (SBF, Google, etc.,) you will get more "bang" for your buck
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La Belle

Anyways, I dropped by La Belle at around 3:30pm. I was lucky that it didn't start raining yet since there were only like 8 girls on the couches. I saw some Koreans or Japanese sitting inside drinking. I saw a bunch of mercedes parked outside so it looked like the hi-so thais were having a get together here or maybe it was all the owner's cars or something. This place looks very nice inside but it has the same problem Colonze has..there's a shitload of papa/mamasans standing around annoying you. There should be a rule..the number of host personnel should never outnumber the actual MP girls. Nataree has the right idea with this aspect of their business. Another thing that annoyed me about this place is that they have these big pillars that block your line of sight on one half of the viewing area in the lounge. It's really stupid design.

There were only about 3-4 S (2700) girls, a few Q (3300) that were quickly taken away, and a few P(3900). From where I was sitting one P on the far right looked quite hideous. She had white skin, big boobs, but her face...jesus. It looked like she had way too much plastic surgery or something. I'm originally from California so I know bad plastic surgery when I see it. I swear i'm not making this up I can't believe such a high tier girl would have a weird looking face like that. Go see for yourself you can't miss her, she's really white skinned but with a really strange looking face. One of the Ps sitting beside her looked quite nice though, almost like a Thai soap star or flashy club girl in RCA but the P tier is 3900. I just couldn't justify it. So, I decided to move on. The mamasan sitting with me gave me a very dirty look when I did my kap koon kap and left. Bitch.
It's unfortunate that we couldn't get to meet and cheong the last time round. Perhaps u may have found someone u liked on the day that I visited. U may have been there too early. Most of the girls start working at 4pm. I was there about 5pm and there were at least 20 girls. However, they were soon quickly taken up. The S girls did not meet my standard, but there were some from the G (3300) and P (3900) that all of us (2 bros that went together) thought were worth bonking and better than any from nataree. And we were at Nataree the day before to evaluate the stocks there. As for the price difference, think of it as paying for a nice ambience. We only had one papasan serve us, and he was helpful in giving us recommendations, but not in the pushy sort of way. You're right about the column though, poor design for sure.

If you want to talk about service, my best experience is still at oil MP. Unfortunately it's hard to find girls that can match Soapy MP girls for looks and body. Most of the facilities are also quite basic, sometimes the same standard as Nataree without the bath tub.... end of day depends on your expectations and needs.

looking forward to your Poisedon FR then. I've been there a couple of times, and while the girls were pretty for model cat, but they have alays disappointed in the service and attitude side. It could just be a case of bad luck. Chok dee krub!
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Hello Brudder,

La Belle got soapy on matress like Nataree?

Thank you brudder.
When did Nataree ever have soapy on matress? It's always at the bath tub. La Belle room has a jacuzzi, not just a bath tub.
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my final night here in bkk after riding my motorcycle up from SG.

cleared nataree and emmanuel

thinking of trying sapphire the 2nd since the post history shows that sapphire supposedly has chiobus. no FRs on it though.

never tried models from poseidon either, usually i take the fishtank girls.
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When did Nataree ever have soapy on matress? It's always at the bath tub. La Belle room has a jacuzzi, not just a bath tub.
U have not been to Nataree, there is mattress for soapy.
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