my affair with my sis in law

[seowlang]

Originally Posted by andythai

Bro Seowlang, did I catch your hints correctly that you did not lost two women but lost your wife. Hope you are a lucky and blissful man now.

Hi Andythai,

You are one of those I remember years back. Allow me not to jump the gun and write out in chronological order asap. Thanks for listening

[Ntspannar]

Originally Posted by Lilypussy

If u like the story, read quietly, otherwise just F.O.!
No one ask you to analyse the content if it is right morally, and whether he is coward or not, or he did wrong whatsoever, is NONe of your business!

You come in here behind your GF/Wife already you are NOT, what right have you to judge others??

Yet you have the right to judge lol.
So shall I tell you the same? Don't like what write or reply? F.O? Lol
Childishness at the highest level and no, my Gf knows I am here. No issues on that.

[Ntspannar]

I am curious. How would you have liked to work out the differences after sleeping with her sister? I am not get quite getting that part. I mean isn't the divorce the best option?
She gets a "better" man (though some will differ), and you get to find the one for you?

I'm not saying she should outdo you to level things up. I'm just saying you are having some really unrealistic expectation on working the differences out. It's not making sense.

If you are using a court system to view it, then it's pretty straight forward.
Did your wife not make the right decision?
From her aspect you are not good enough.
From your aspect you cheated.
Both prima facie. Beyond reasonable doubt. So to feel bitter and justify that you are allowed to do because you were a lucky bastard, have you not linked both "cases"? While you acknowledge those feelings were selfish, but you often had the ready made excuse you didn't get caught so in her eyes or "legally" you did no wrong so you deserve more or all the opportunities in the world to work the differences. We all know the facts above. On a hindsight would it not be better to not be bitter and accept the fact she deserved someone better and u also get to be with the one you truly belong to?

Only you can figure it out. I genuinely don't really care what others respond because they just want a story update and seem to preach what they for sure can't practise. It's easy to do it online. I've been through what you've gone through. Well similar. Not exact. So I'm telling you what is probably the best way to go forward or embrace although by now you probably worked yourself around it. It's easy to throw foul language but filter through the replies you get and you'll see which ones make sense and which ones are just waiting for your updates and would definitely not give a damn about "supporting" you if you disappeared and not updated. Human behavior is nor hard to anticipate or experiment on

Originally Posted by seowlang

It terms of moral values, I fully agree my betrayal of my ex-wife is a sin of the highest level. Period.

But I would like to take up 3 main points you made.

1) "just because you didn't get caught is cowardly"
Just because I didn't get caught doesn't make me cowardly. I was a lucky bastard.

2) "You on the other hand ignored the fact you lied"
I didn't ignore the fact that I lied. I mentioned earlier that 2 wrongs do not make a right. How is that ignoring my wrong doing?

Even in the eye of the law, we have to base everything on a case by case basis. First case being my affair (in your words, I lied) and that is without a doubt my fault. Assuming I am caught, henceforth, are we going to give the same judgement for every other subsequent cases based on this first case? Or should we just draw evidence and facts relevant and available (key word) to the 2nd case and discuss within that context?

Of course your answer is the former. Using this argument, my wife can have no chance of outdoing me as I do not have a brother and the only chance to 'outdo' my sin is to sleep with my elderly father. So for the rest of our lives, had we been together, any mistake lesser than that would be my fault since I am the one that committed the 1st wrong and there isn't another mistake more grave than mine?

3) "later even decide to push more blame towards the wife for wanting a divorce."
Not sure where you got this from but I didn't push more blame towards her. I felt I was not given a chance to work out the differences we had. Thus I was bitter.

[ProfD]

Was an interesting read from TS and everyone who has shared their story.

If anyone is to judge, let him/her without sin/wrong throw the 1st stone.

TS, you never mentioned whether you are together with J or not. Glad to see that morally most here have the common sense of known themselves of committing right from wrong(whether one ends up doing it is another matter)

One of the best threads here in the midst of a forum for debauchery.
Anyway hope SL shares more about what has happened since 2014. And hopefully you are doing well.

[GrieGzEters]

Wah Lau, how come this thread become so messy with all the debates on moral.

TS, actually you do not have to justify your actions to everyone here. Right or wrong only you know and if you are able to live with the consequences result from your actions be it it’s the right or wrong decision, that’s all it matters. Many of us here would rather you go continue your write up rather than wasting time explaining the rational of your decision.

[lipe]

bro griegzeters

right on

up you 14 points

Originally Posted by GrieGzEters

Wah Lau, how come this thread become so messy with all the debates on moral.

TS, actually you do not have to justify your actions to everyone here. Right or wrong only you know and if you are able to live with the consequences result from your actions be it it’s the right or wrong decision, that’s all it matters. Many of us here would rather you go continue your write up rather than wasting time explaining the rational of your decision.

[lipe]

bro seowlang

thanks for the points.

please continue with your story.

Originally Posted by seowlang

Hi Andythai,

You are one of those I remember years back. Allow me not to jump the gun and write out in chronological order asap. Thanks for listening

[diputs1269]

Originally Posted by GrieGzEters

Wah Lau, how come this thread become so messy with all the debates on moral.

TS, actually you do not have to justify your actions to everyone here. Right or wrong only you know and if you are able to live with the consequences result from your actions be it it’s the right or wrong decision, that’s all it matters. Many of us here would rather you go continue your write up rather than wasting time explaining the rational of your decision.

Yes precisely, upz you 11 humble, cheers!

[blackwhack]

Originally Posted by Ntspannar

I am curious. How would you have liked to work out the differences after sleeping with her sister? I am not get quite getting that part. I mean isn't the divorce the best option?
She gets a "better" man (though some will differ), and you get to find the one for you?

I'm not saying she should outdo you to level things up. I'm just saying you are having some really unrealistic expectation on working the differences out. It's not making sense.

If you are using a court system to view it, then it's pretty straight forward.
Did your wife not make the right decision?
From her aspect you are not good enough.
From your aspect you cheated.
Both prima facie. Beyond reasonable doubt. So to feel bitter and justify that you are allowed to do because you were a lucky bastard, have you not linked both "cases"? While you acknowledge those feelings were selfish, but you often had the ready made excuse you didn't get caught so in her eyes or "legally" you did no wrong so you deserve more or all the opportunities in the world to work the differences. We all know the facts above. On a hindsight would it not be better to not be bitter and accept the fact she deserved someone better and u also get to be with the one you truly belong to?

Only you can figure it out. I genuinely don't really care what others respond because they just want a story update and seem to preach what they for sure can't practise. It's easy to do it online. I've been through what you've gone through. Well similar. Not exact. So I'm telling you what is probably the best way to go forward or embrace although by now you probably worked yourself around it. It's easy to throw foul language but filter through the replies you get and you'll see which ones make sense and which ones are just waiting for your updates and would definitely not give a damn about "supporting" you if you disappeared and not updated. Human behavior is nor hard to anticipate or experiment on

Haiz...can block this guy or not ah? Go troll some other thread.

[StaminaIsKey]

Originally Posted by blackwhack

Haiz...can block this guy or not ah? Go troll some other thread.

Aiya, some people jealous got people get to piak other girls he either face cmi or kkb cmi. So cannot piak other girls see people here got piak other girls come in here jealous talk moral lorh.

[seowlang]

Part 3 That biz trip to London

This is probably about 2 years plus after my papers were signed and I have lost contact with my ex-wife’s family..

It was my company’s annual global leadership meeting and that year, it was in London. Although excited, the annual meeting was my first in a top management role and that did churn up my stomach in a way. In additional to presenting the regional updates there was also a budget presentation to the board of directors. My peers told me to expect some ‘satay grilling’ for first timers. I worked extremely long hours especially the week leading up to the big event. Departing out of Singapore, I was prepared to work throughout most of my flight en route to London. I was ushered to my seat next to the window. Wasting no time in taking out my notes and going through my presentation slides even before the plane took off.

There were lots of movements as more passengers were boarding. I put on my headphones and buried myself into work, doing some last minute amendments and checking. The flight took off and after what seemed like an hour or so, meal was served. As I took off my headphone for the first time, I heard a very distinct and familiar voice in a chatter between 2 ladies coming from in front of me. For a moment, my heart skipped a beat. I knew it was J. There was an urge to stand up and walk in front to make sure I was 100% right but I decided against it. I strained my ear to try and catch more of the voice but the conversation ended. I roughly figured it was likely 2-3 seats ahead of me in the centre aisle. My eyes must have trained in that direction for 30 minutes ago.. until she finally stood up. It was indeed J. I froze.

As she made her way to the toilet at the back, I regained my composition and waved at her and let out a soft ‘hello!”
J was just as stunned. We must have stared at each other for 2-3 seconds before she spoke.

J: Hey, how are you?

Me: I’m good. How about you?

J: I’m good too. Traveling for work or holiday?

Me: Work lah. I wish it was a holiday! You are travelling for work too?

J: Ya. Talk to you later, heading to the toilet.

I almost wanted to walk her to the toilet but decided it was rather awkward and stupid. I was staring blankly at the screen all the time while waiting for her to be back. Moments later, she stopped by my seat.

J: How long will you be in London?

Me: Till Friday. When are you heading back to Singapore?

J: I will be here for the entire week. Leaving Sunday morning.

It took me an instance to ask if she is free to meet up during one of the nights.

Me: You free to catch up on Wednesday or Thursday night?

J: hmmm.. my schedule is rather packed. Let’s play by ear.

Me: Ok, I will whatsapp you.

She didn’t say a yes or a no. Just smiled and walked back to her seat. I took it as a negative. Felt dejected but at the same time, knew that had to be the answer. What the fuck was I expecting?! For the entire flight, she must have gone to the toilet another dozen times or so. But we didn’t speak a single word. It was a strange feeling seeing J. So familiar but yet so distant. I believe we have both moved on with our lives and perhaps, the end of the marriage with her sister gave us some space to grow, rethink and rebuild our lives.

Besides diving into my notes and a snooze here and there, my eyes were fixated in J’s direction and whenever she walked past. There were quite a few times she walked past without even looking at my direction. I was a little affected but also figured that it is getting awkward to look at me every single trip to the toilet without a word. Our short conversation lingered in my mind the entire flight. God, how J has changed. She had so much confidence oozing out of her; the way she speaks, her appealing smile, her hair, neatly manicured hands, her professional outfit, her overall demeanour. I was smitten once again.

But do I really know this woman now? My heart says yes, but my mind tells me no.

We arrived in London and didn’t get the say goodbye up close. As she was seated in front of me, she turned and waved a goodbye as we proceeded to disembark.

The next 3 days passed by literally like a whirlwind; fast, chilling and mercilessly cold. I managed to survive at work by the skin of my teeth. It was only a Thursday morning after my presentation was over that I had time to take a breather. After 3 nights of socializing with other colleagues, it was finally a free and easy night. The first thing that came to my mind… J.

Whipped out my phone and whatsapp the following just before noon:

“Free for dinner tonight? My last night here so it’s my treat.”

The message had 2 blue ticks almost instantaneously. But no reply. She was constantly online for the next 3-4 hours but still my request went unanswered. Until finally, I received a ping.

To be continued…

[Siriusam]

wow! more exciting than K drama.. looking forward to your next installment!

[ben2011]

Originally Posted by seowlang

Part 3 That biz trip to London

This is probably about 2 years plus after my papers were signed and I have lost contact with my ex-wife’s family..

It was my company’s annual global leadership meeting and that year, it was in London. Although excited, the annual meeting was my first in a top management role and that did churn up my stomach in a way. In additional to presenting the regional updates there was also a budget presentation to the board of directors. My peers told me to expect some ‘satay grilling’ for first timers. I worked extremely long hours especially the week leading up to the big event. Departing out of Singapore, I was prepared to work throughout most of my flight en route to London. I was ushered to my seat next to the window. Wasting no time in taking out my notes and going through my presentation slides even before the plane took off.

There were lots of movements as more passengers were boarding. I put on my headphones and buried myself into work, doing some last minute amendments and checking. The flight took off and after what seemed like an hour or so, meal was served. As I took off my headphone for the first time, I heard a very distinct and familiar voice in a chatter between 2 ladies coming from in front of me. For a moment, my heart skipped a beat. I knew it was J. There was an urge to stand up and walk in front to make sure I was 100% right but I decided against it. I strained my ear to try and catch more of the voice but the conversation ended. I roughly figured it was likely 2-3 seats ahead of me in the centre aisle. My eyes must have trained in that direction for 30 minutes ago.. until she finally stood up. It was indeed J. I froze.

As she made her way to the toilet at the back, I regained my composition and waved at her and let out a soft ‘hello!”
J was just as stunned. We must have stared at each other for 2-3 seconds before she spoke.

J: Hey, how are you?

Me: I’m good. How about you?

J: I’m good too. Traveling for work or holiday?

Me: Work lah. I wish it was a holiday! You are travelling for work too?

J: Ya. Talk to you later, heading to the toilet.

I almost wanted to walk her to the toilet but decided it was rather awkward and stupid. I was staring blankly at the screen all the time while waiting for her to be back. Moments later, she stopped by my seat.

J: How long will you be in London?

Me: Till Friday. When are you heading back to Singapore?

J: I will be here for the entire week. Leaving Sunday morning.

It took me an instance to ask if she is free to meet up during one of the nights.

Me: You free to catch up on Wednesday or Thursday night?

J: hmmm.. my schedule is rather packed. Let’s play by ear.

Me: Ok, I will whatsapp you.

She didn’t say a yes or a no. Just smiled and walked back to her seat. I took it as a negative. Felt dejected but at the same time, knew that had to be the answer. What the fuck was I expecting?! For the entire flight, she must have gone to the toilet another dozen times or so. But we didn’t speak a single word. It was a strange feeling seeing J. So familiar but yet so distant. I believe we have both moved on with our lives and perhaps, the end of the marriage with her sister gave us some space to grow, rethink and rebuild our lives.

Besides diving into my notes and a snooze here and there, my eyes were fixated in J’s direction and whenever she walked past. There were quite a few times she walked past without even looking at my direction. I was a little affected but also figured that it is getting awkward to look at me every single trip to the toilet without a word. Our short conversation lingered in my mind the entire flight. God, how J has changed. She had so much confidence oozing out of her; the way she speaks, her appealing smile, her hair, neatly manicured hands, her professional outfit, her overall demeanour. I was smitten once again.

But do I really know this woman now? My heart says yes, but my mind tells me no.

We arrived in London and didn’t get the say goodbye up close. As she was seated in front of me, she turned and waved a goodbye as we proceeded to disembark.

The next 3 days passed by literally like a whirlwind; fast, chilling and mercilessly cold. I managed to survive at work by the skin of my teeth. It was only a Thursday morning after my presentation was over that I had time to take a breather. After 3 nights of socializing with other colleagues, it was finally a free and easy night. The first thing that came to my mind… J.

Whipped out my phone and whatsapp the following just before noon:

“Free for dinner tonight? My last night here so it’s my treat.”

The message had 2 blue ticks almost instantaneously. But no reply. She was constantly online for the next 3-4 hours but still my request went unanswered. Until finally, I received a ping.

To be continued…

Looks like you and J is really 有缘！

[8frans]

thanks bro seowlang for the update..

the wait is worse than waiting for your weekly favorite tv episode...

[andythai]

Originally Posted by seowlang

Hi Andythai,

You are one of those I remember years back. Allow me not to jump the gun and write out in chronological order asap. Thanks for listening

Thank you bro you will always have my support.