I Yearn To Return To Vietnam

[blue_swatch]

Originally Posted by Tomahawk

Anyhow, yesterday she told me that over the New Year holiday, she'll return to Hanoi and take the opportunity to make a passport. Then she'll be able to come to Singapore! Of course, on the surface, I pretended to be happy, but inside I was like ! I will need to break off with her before she flies down!

Wah put long line, catch big fish ah! The fox tail is out, ladies and gentlement... start your engines

[Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by blue_swatch

Wah put long line, catch big fish ah! The fox tail is out, ladies and gentlement... start your engines

Siao liao loh... The last thing I want to do is to let her catch the Queen and me makaning or shopping while she's in town. Imagine I admit that I've been cheating on her, either on the spot or even before she sees us. I'd probably get a good slap with the Queen looking on. That's why it's important for me to break off with her before she comes down. At least I can say that I got to know the Queen only after we broke up.

[usmjordan2]

I nver go vietnam before...........how is it the place ?
should be very nice right

[Tomahawk]

Brother usmjordan2, I was like you, never having gone to Vietnam, till I went for my first time in August. That 4D/3N work trip changed my impression of that place forever. Prior to the visit, all I knew about Vietnam were the Viet girls in JC. Now that I've gotten close to one girl and I've had a look at the life of locals close up, I know Vietnam has so much more to offer.

[blue_swatch]

which is also why im making a visit soon Love vietnam!

[nyquist]

Nice story bro...
I shall make a return soon...

[Tomahawk]

I'm thinking of doing Part II of my Vietnam story. The story of what happened when I finally returned to this country. Is anyone interested? I'm concious of the fact that not everyone will take to my longwindedness!

[Tomahawk]

By the way, I have some queries here. I'm not sure if this happens to me only or it's common among all the brothers here.

I find that when we befriend girls in such countries like Thailand and Vietnam, they're okay with getting by with not knowing fully about us. For one, never once did Lan ask about my age. Neither did she know what I was working as. It was only when one of her "sisters" asked me the above in Lan's presence that she found out. Lan didn't even know my full name till I told her on my own. Also, Lan permitted me to take nude shots of her during my first visit, no questions asked. She didn't ask for any of my photos in return. And on the recent trip, she allowed me to take photos and videos of her at the bar, plus shots of us together, but did not ask me to send them to her. I remember that when I was in Bangkok earlier this year, the girl at a massage place let me take her topless pictures and invited me to her home, but she also never probed about my personal life.

The above behaviours wouldn't be seen if I was dealing with Singaporean girls. Anyone knowing a guy would naturally be curious about him and his family/work/personal life/etc. My guess is that girls in the "lesser" countries are only hoping to score comparatively richer boyfriends or husbands. So long as they can achieve this, nothing else is important. It's not so much that they're bochup, but that they simply don't see the need to probe.

Any brothers here have the same observation?

[nyquist]

So long we are able to provide some TLC and monetary rewards. they wouldn't bother.. Saigon gals are easy if you know where to hunt.

[rapebill]

actually I know you are concerned with her bochap attitude in that if she is really interested in you, she would have showed more interest in these type of things right? Another fallacy is that we sometimes like to think we are the centre of attraction. However, the reality will crash down hard upon you when you finally realise that you are not her sun.

[magicafe]

Originally Posted by Tomahawk

By the way, I have some queries here. I'm not sure if this happens to me only or it's common among all the brothers here.

I find that when we befriend girls in such countries like Thailand and Vietnam, they're okay with getting by with not knowing fully about us. For one, never once did Lan ask about my age. Neither did she know what I was working as. It was only when one of her "sisters" asked me the above in Lan's presence that she found out. Lan didn't even know my full name till I told her on my own. Also, Lan permitted me to take nude shots of her during my first visit, no questions asked. She didn't ask for any of my photos in return. And on the recent trip, she allowed me to take photos and videos of her at the bar, plus shots of us together, but did not ask me to send them to her. I remember that when I was in Bangkok earlier this year, the girl at a massage place let me take her topless pictures and invited me to her home, but she also never probed about my personal life.

The above behaviours wouldn't be seen if I was dealing with Singaporean girls. Anyone knowing a guy would naturally be curious about him and his family/work/personal life/etc. My guess is that girls in the "lesser" countries are only hoping to score comparatively richer boyfriends or husbands. So long as they can achieve this, nothing else is important. It's not so much that they're bochup, but that they simply don't see the need to probe.

Any brothers here have the same observation?

Bro Tomahawk,
Excuse me! From my experiences related to your ?, you're just another of her potential sugar daddy until further progress that your are sincere. She likes u but in love with u. She has feeling for u but not the love's kind of feeling.

[rock777]

Originally Posted by Tomahawk

I'm thinking of doing Part II of my Vietnam story. The story of what happened when I finally returned to this country. Is anyone interested? I'm concious of the fact that not everyone will take to my longwindedness!

Pls continue bro , i am waiting

[Intel Ops]

Originally Posted by Tomahawk

I'm thinking of doing Part II of my Vietnam story. The story of what happened when I finally returned to this country. Is anyone interested? I'm concious of the fact that not everyone will take to my longwindedness!

Hi bro,

Please do continue with the story as I'm sure many are reading your story and eager to find out the ending if there is any. I've been following your story since the very first day. Reading your thread does indeed bring back my blissful but painful memories with a vn girl. I tend to get emotional whenever I read your story as my memories kept flooding back. Haiz...
Bro, you mention that you did have a chat with lan's mother on the phone ? So, I'm wondering if the conversation is in english or chinese ? Normally, the majority of the older vn ppl can only speak vn language. I remember that in the past, I can only smile and sign-language with my ex gf's family members.
Regarding your queries, I personally feel that they tend not to ask lots of qns but will wait for you to tell them. Peharps, they believe in knowing only what you want them to know. Maybe, Lan and her friends lied to you about Lan's past because Lan was afraid that you might look down on her. Nonetheless, this belief is prejudiced towards them being 真心爱你. If not, then they wouldn't be bothered to know more about you and would lie in order to get more benefits out from you.
I believe that there are good and bad girls everywhere, WL or not. It is just that the chances of finding a good WL are extremely hard as their priority is $$$.
Bro, I think maybe you might like to ask her where she is going to get the money from? (I suppose you are not sponsoring her?) Buying ticket and doing passport are not cheap. Hmm, majority of vn ppl are not able to afford a plane ticket easily.
IMHO, since you are married, I feel that you should cherish your family. You mentioned that lan's feelings for you is real but you are unable to commit further in this relationship therefore I think that you should be truthful to her asap in case of 夜长梦多, especially you had mentioned that she wanted to fly here. Tell her the truth and see what her reaction is. 长痛不如短痛... If in any case you feel bad, offer her some compensation.
Anyway, those are my personal opinions and are not intended to offend you or anyone.

Please do continue with the story. Hoping to read the next installment soon.

[Tomahawk]

Thanks brothers nyquist, rapebill, magicafe, rock777 and Intel_Ops. Your comments are very much appreciated.

Before I go on to post Part II of my story, here's an update. Yes, if you have seen the title up here, I have been dumped. Ha... I already started to sense that things weren't quite the same after I left Vietnam last Tuesday. Before I arrived on my second visit, we would talk everyday -- sometimes she did the calling, sometimes me. She would get upset if I did not call. However, since Tuesday, she has not contacted me. My numerous SMS to her went unanswered. And she doesn't call me anymore (except for a call last night; see below). She didn't go to the extent of rejecting my calls. She did answer them, but I notice she doesn't call me Darling anymore. And each and every call is just so short. She's always busy and always promises to call or SMS afterwards, but of course they never came. In the past, even when I called her at work, she never failed to set aside a couple of minutes to chat. Hmmm...

Anyhow, I felt so sad about losing Lan the past few days (I thought about her even when lying on the bed at night) that on Saturday night, I actually sneaked out of the room when the Queen was asleep, to make a call. That must have been about 1:00am Saigon time or so. Of course the call went unanswered. Last night, at 1:30am here, I was awakened by a call myself. It was that familiar number +8490xxxxxxx. I actually think that Lan was seeking revenge.

[Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by magicafe

Bro Tomahawk,
Excuse me! From my experiences related to your ?, you're just another of her potential sugar daddy until further progress that your are sincere. She likes u but in love with u. She has feeling for u but not the love's kind of feeling.

How right you are, brother magicafe and others. Brother nyquist also mentioned TLC. What's that BTW?

Anyhow, I now fully understand what you guys have been warning me about. Yes, love blinds one when one is immersed in the wonderful feeling. I did know what you guys were talking about when you told me Viet girls are out for money. It's just that one has to go through the school of hard knocks before you fully appreciate the meaning and put things in perspective.

So, Lan now doesn't contact me anymore. I suspect it could be due to two reasons:

1. She found out that I have a Queen and baby at home.
2. She realised that I'm not able to give her the $ that she's seeking.

I'll release the details in the story that will follow. However, for now, I guess I have to be consoled by the fact that I got away rather easily. The outcome could have been worse. After Lan found out that I was married, she continued going out with me on Day 2 and we had sex a few more times. She acted like nothing had happened, preferring to do a quiet goodbye after I departed. She could have simply left the hotel and left me to fend on my own.

Rounding everything up, let's see. What have I lost?

1. S$440 (including postage) in a brand new Samsung handphone that I gave her two months back, S$400 in cash I brought over to Saigon last week (but some of this was consumed by me, in terms of food, drinks, shopping and entertainment) and US$58 spent on accomodation.
2. Another S$100 in a phone battery and charger and postage that I had sent earlier, before I realised she was actually asking for a new phone.
3. About S$120 in Chatchat calling cards that I have spent on in the past two months, and another $70 or so in SunPage IDD phone bills earlier, before I realised the massive savings with calling cards.
4. Lots of time spent at work chatting on the phone and talking discreetly at home.
5. Lots and lots of feelings. I had put in my true feelings for Lan. Yes, I knew we couldn't be together eventually but I still gave her my real feelings. That's just me. I tend to fall for every "nice" girl I meet. I'm the sentimental, emotional type of person.

What have I gained?

1. Basic but gramatically correct Tieng Viet -- I had gone as far as to learn basic Vietnamese so that I could converse with Lan.
2. An undertanding of the lives of ordinary Vietnamese. This is something you will never get as a tourist, even if you sit down with the locals at roadside stalls for breakfast. You don't get the kind of insights into how locals lived their lives unless you're involved on a personal level with somebody for a period of time.
3. A better geographic understanding of Saigon, especially District 1. I can say I can confidently navigate around the Pham Ngu Lao/Bui Vien area and find good eats and hotels in future.
4. The wonderful feeling of having a new girlfriend, one who's young, fair and pretty. It's really nice to relive the feeling of courting someone and being courted, and to be able to visit nightspots again, with a gf in revealing clothes in tow. Trust me, this is something I never get in Singapore.
5. Most important of all: AN IMPORTANT LESSON ON THE WONDERS AND RISKS OF ENGAGING IN RELATIONSHIPS WITH FOREIGN GIRLS. I had been a newbie in BGR with foreigners prior to arriving in Vietnam. I had previously had Tingting from China, but our relationship was forged here when she was working in Meiya, and we had engaged in the occassional chat when she returned home. But this is the first time I had allowed myself to be with someone to such a deep extent, in a foreign land. Now that I have tasted failure, I believe I have emerged a stronger person.